Honest to god, this was like THE most fun page to make. Ever. I kept going back to it too. Dream-Rain had to be drawn three separate times and Dream-Ruby twice. After all, I had to make sure Gavin’s mental images were adequately sexy, while still keeping up the continuity of what they were actually wearing (Rain’s yellow shirt outfit is the last girly thing Gavin saw her wearing. See “Page 262 - The Closet”).
Er-hem. If I may, special mention goes to Dream-Ruby. I think that may (inadvertently) be the sexiest image I’ve ever drawn. Just sayin’. >_>
Discussion: What does this revelation tell us – if anything – about Gavin?
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that dream rain is undoubtedly sexy. and so is Ruby. i love this page a TON!
i kinda figured he was attracted to rain , but i didnt think he thought rudy was attractive in dressed as a girl , but i think he is still 100% hetero and just likes rudy dressed like a girl because he looks so much like one. hot pic of rain btw
Dream Rain and Ruby are extremely cute. I love this page.
Gavin you're a perv that's all.
Rain looks soooo cute in that pic, but damn that skirt is uncomfortably short makes me want to cover my butt just look at that pic.
Strangely I don't get any of that feeling looking at Rudy cuz I know he's a guy so it all just silliness he shouldn't be embarrassed if someone see's his undies.
Both the pic of Rain and Ruby are cute and sexy ^^
Gavin is right it's almost like talking about different person This is especially truth to Rudy/Ruby as Rudy act like he play the role of a girl. Rain is more like a girl trapped in a boy's body and don't know how to act like a boy :3
Gavin, you're such a boy...
I don't think his feelings are all that unusual. After all, Ruby does *look* just like a girl.
And, I'd say dream!Rain is the sexiest thing you've ever drawn.
But... Rain DID look like a girl still! O_o
Ruby is understandable though.
I have to disagree. Ryan is effeminate, yes, but not as undeniably "girly-looking" as Rain normally seems.
Speaking from personal experience, when I come out to people who ONLY know me as a girl, they typically tell me they have hard time believing that I could possibly be a genetic male. Same for the other way around; if I'm known ONLY as a guy to someone when I come out, they'll invariably tell me they "can't see it" (despite my feminine features). In fact, most transwomen I know who have had (unfortunately) negative experiences in coming out, tell me that at least one part of the other person's argument ends up being along the lines of "You'll never pass. You don't look like a woman." But they are, in fact, beautiful women, and I couldn't see them any other way.
My point being: when you see Rain dressed like Ryan, and you see a girl, I think that's normal. Because up until now, you've only ever seen her as a girl, and it's hard to imagine her as anything else. I mean, Ryan's hair and outfit are actually rather androgynous. It's association, rather than actual appearance.
I guess that means that Gavin accepts someone as female and the possibility of attraction if they present themselves as female in the way that he likes? It seems like he likes the very feminine gender role, something Rain especially strives for, and maybe that's why he doesn't see Maria that way; because he's not attracted to the less 'feminine' way that she acts?
I dunno, this is just speculating. I think he's got a thing for very feminine girls, even if that's Rudy who doesn't feel that he should be female anyways. From what we know, while gay, Rudy is cisgendered.
So it's like a Ukyo Kuonji situation...
Speaking of which, wouldn't Jusenkyo be awesome, not just for Transexuals, but for others as well? ^_^ Ky would have a much easier time with stuff...
That is the *best* pic of Rain. I want that top ._.
It just kinda hit me reading through the comments that it's sweet versus sexy. Rain is the more reserved, cute, and quiet type whereas Ruby is, well, Rudy trying to be sexy and just having a lot of fun with his role but still being himself. Ruby is outgoing, fun-loving, and flirtatious. Gavin's just a normal adolescent guy who likes girls, and can't help but feel something for 'Ruby' since he's so damn convincing. Both are playing on his sexual/romantic desires because they represent both sides of the sexy and cute spectrums of femininity. Ruby's just too cute and flirty to ignore, yet he is genuinely attracted to Rain. The sexiness of Rain in his dreams is evidence of that, but I'm sure Ruby is more of a combination of dress, attitude, and behavior. Everyone's attracted to a sexy self-confident girl, right? Gavin's just your average horny teenage boy. I've lost my train of thought here and everyone else has probably already realized all of this by now anyway so I'll just go sit in my corner now and wait for the next page.
Ah! Dream Rain is so hot! Ruby's sexy too, but I think Rain wins hands down. And it sounds to me like Gavin's a perfectly healthy man. Albeit, a bit confused, but in this case, I think the confusion's entirely understandable.
In all honesty, I can't make a deducted reasoning answer since I don't know enough about the LGBTQP community (i added P for Pansexual). I'm just gonna have to sit and wait for the next comic.
My one comment that makes sense:
I think he didn't see Maria that way because the relationship was fake, and that she is a lesbian. Rain and Ruby/Rudy/lol-i-forgot-his-name-brainfart aren't.....(????)
>////> but damn, are Rain and Ruby hott.
Sexuality IS fluid, after all, and it's not necessarily unheard of for someone to be exclusively attracted to transfolk, or pull transfolk into their earlier-discovered group of attraction. *shrug*
I understand Gavin's attraction to both of them. As a very superficial male, I'm attracted to people who look like cute females. If you look cute, I'm attracted, and it doesn't really matter what is under your clothes for me to be attracted. Fake or real boobs still empower my imagination, so the the way women look is far more interesting to me than whether they look that way because of nature or foam or silicone. Ditto for makeup vs. a great complexion, for real vs. plastic fingernails, and for all the millions of other little things that are supposed to define a "pretty girl."
Oh fuck, he's not a fucking chaser is he?
Oh my god, please do Ruby*Gavin. PLEASE.