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posted January 20th, 2013, 8:06 pm


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January 20th, 2013, 8:06 pm

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Odd thought crossed my mind when I started to write this blurb. I don’t think Gavin’s dad has ever been mentioned before (maybe in Volume 1?). I can’t even recall a time when any readers addressed, “hey, what ever happened to Gavin’s dad?” Well, there you go. The question no one ever asked now has an answer. Surprised?

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January 20th, 2013, 8:15 pm

Chihiro

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I was not expecting this at all. Whooo surprise!

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January 20th, 2013, 9:04 pm

lauren (Guest)

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his dad is probably the reason he is every accepting

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January 20th, 2013, 10:49 pm

Atomic dragon

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... You know this is not the strangest thing i've seen on this comic. though it does explain Gavin's accepting life... not counting Rain's reveal. That was actually expected.

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January 20th, 2013, 11:21 pm

LilyFlareVII

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I literally went, "Ohh!" like the cat in Puss in Boots and my husband was like, "What?" Nothing honey. XD

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January 21st, 2013, 5:58 pm

WiddleMow

wat.

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XD I didn't see this coming at all!
Love it.

and I finally made an account! WOO.

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January 21st, 2013, 9:08 pm

Dark Komet (Guest)

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Wow Gavin's Dad is Bi

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January 22nd, 2013, 4:50 am

M Bision (Guest)

Meh.

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For you, having a character be revealed that they're gay was a shocking moment in your life. But for me, it's Tuesday.

Seriously, it's Tuesday right now.

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January 22nd, 2013, 10:56 am

Alyce

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@LittleLynn84: I just wanted to say I finally created an account. Hooray! I added you to my favorites (my only one thus far), and will rate all the comics. Like I've said before, there isn't a comic you've posted yet that hasn't brightened my day. Even the situations that aren't so good for Rain somehow find a way to make me smile. I hope that comes across correctly, and doesn't make me out to be some sort of wacko.

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January 22nd, 2013, 4:51 pm

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Well, the question becomes, does Gavin's mom dislike his dad because he's gay, because he broke her heart, or because he cheater on her with a guy, or a mix of the two?

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January 23rd, 2013, 10:19 am

Silas (Guest)

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ha! that's great.
(although i find it funny how everyone's assuming gavin's dad is gay, or that he's bi. there's a lot more options, folks.)

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December 3rd, 2013, 9:39 pm

comicgirl

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I hope that Gavin's parents broke up in a mutual sort of way.

But the way his mother is acting, I figure it was unpleasant.

Here's hoping he didn't cheat on her with Frank. I mean, if he broke up with her and then met Frank, it'd still be sort of bad. Because no matter how you look at it, he still dumped her for someone else. And a guy. Which had to do awful stuff to her worth as a woman.

But at least there'd be no lying on his part.

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December 21st, 2015, 4:23 pm

Maplestrip

If I may?

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That was a hell of a mystery no one thought was a mystery and didn't even really need solving, but damn if it didn't just get solved, so nice work.

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June 10th, 2016, 5:06 pm

TranshumanAr (Guest)

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@Maplestrip:
I know what you did there. IT KEEPS HAPPENING!

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July 16th, 2017, 1:28 pm

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@comicgirl ARGH this bullshit again. Why should it do something to her worth as a woman? Maybe if he left her for another woman, then she might have a logical basis for feeling inadequate. But here, her "replacement" offers a very different set of characteristics! The competition/comparison/complex she'd get from Frank is just classic homophobic paranoia: "I turned him gay." It's almost always some variation of a belief that the woman is the reason their ex is now with a man and it's INSANE. Classic bi-erasing homophobia. And narcissism. Someone's next choice in lovers very often has little or nothing to do with their ex. And even when it does, there's no reason to be bitter about it or mad at anyone bit yourself.

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July 18th, 2017, 8:07 am

comicgirl

You know... my original comment was like 4 years old...

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@plasticwrap: But sure, I'll bite.

Contrary to what you're theorizing, I was not alluding to the fact that she'd think she turned him gay. But as a woman, I do think it'd do things to her worth.

Because there's no way she can compete. At least with another woman in the picture, she could imagine doing so. Like if she got desperate enough to chase him, she could try and demand comparisons. Because both being women, they could basically do the same things to him.

"Oh, so she let you do this to her boobs, huh? I can do that too and better."

But the fact that he prefers a man... she can't compete with that. Because unlike with a woman, you can't argue with the simple fact that he simply has to give him something that she never could. By virtue of him being a guy. So while she knows at least that it's not her fault, in a bittersweet way, she also knows that there was nothing she could have done to keep him.

And hell, maybe it's more of a blow because she just wasted all this time on him. Time she can never get back. If he cheated on her.

That's not to say I disagree with you. Often, it's not about the ex at all when a person moves on. But humans are emotional and often illogical creatures. And we're talking about a relationship ending after a significant amount of time that we're pretty sure wasn't mutual.

And I think it's rather unfair and a little high and mighty to declare a person should just be mad at themselves if they get dumped for a new person. It's just all kinds of blameshifty.

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July 20th, 2017, 1:10 am

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@comicgirl your response doesn't seem to address any argument that I actually made, so I'll draw an analogy. Let's say almost everyone likes bananas, so much so that it's considered normal. So you try eating them. You try to learn to like the taste. But eventually you learn you just don't. You've always wanted to try pears, and when you sink your teeth in, it's a dream come true. This doesn't say anything about the quality or flavor of bananas, ONLY YOUR PERSONAL TASTE in fruit.
If a woman construes an ex coming out of the closet as reflecting on her, that's her projecting her insecurities, and frankly being narcissistic.
How would whether he cheated or not be a factor on being bitter about the time wasted on a failed relationship?
And as for "declaring someone should be mad at themselves" for a breakup, thanks for taking what I said out of context. I said: "Someone's next choice in lovers often has very little or nothing to do with their ex. AND EVEN WHEN IT DOES, there's no reason to be bitter about it [i.e. no use crying over spilled milk] or mad at anyone else." That is to sat, if someone's experience with a negative trait in you while in a relationship with you caused them to seek out a new partner who specifically doesn't have X negative trait, then you can only be mad at you.

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July 20th, 2017, 2:30 pm

comicgirl

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@plasticwrap: I didn't take your comment as an argument. But rather just a considerably long question.

"Why should it do something to her worth as a woman?"

That was my way of answering that specific question. What I said was explaining exactly why.

Keeping with your analogy, the fruit in this case would probably equate to a certain genitalia. Now you are right that someone not liking the taste of bananas says nothing about the quality. But I would imagine the person who probably has been serving you bananas forever, thinking you enjoy their work because they love to cook for you would be right cross if you suddenly decided that you never liked the bananas they made. How whenever they weren't looking, they either threw them away or perhaps vomited up the meal of bananas when they had a spare moment.

Now if that's narcissistic and whatever, so be it. I'm not arguing what it says about the woman. Or even the man. I'm simply stating about the possible negative consequences that could result from such things.

For the other question: Like I said earlier, it's a bigger blow if he cheated vs just up and leaving. For one, it implies he didn't even come out. Not willingly. Rather he was yanked out of the closet when she found him inside. And ultimately, if he didn't just dump her, that means he would have content to use her as a beard without her knowledge or permission for who knows how long. Keeping her from maybe having pursued something with an actual straight male. Of course, this is all just speculation on my part. We have no way of knowing what the situation is.

Lastly, even with your clarification, it still sounds like a critical and non sympathetic statement. Especially the last bit. Like you only have yourself to blame.

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July 21st, 2017, 2:14 am

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@comicgirl First off, the banana is supposed to represent people on one end of the gender binary (doesn't matter which, pears just then become the opposite), not just genitalia. It's not a perfect analogy, because there's a much greater variation among humans than among fruit. (E.g. it actually IS possible for someone to not like bananas because they were only getting crap bananas. In the analagous situation among humans, the ONE banana that you like is far more likely to be the exception, or your "tastes" are changing.) Mixing people serving the fruit into my analogy very conveniently breaks it.
I suppose it IS fair for someone to be upset about being in a long-term relationship that the other person wanted out of for a long time but could never admit to. Waste of time just being a security blanket, etc. But as long as that person was a partner, and not just using you, then why do you have any more right to be upset than anyone else who gets dumped over incompatibility issues? How does it make you somehow less? You're less than both a woman and man, is what it is. That's almost all of us.
"I'm not arguing about what it says about the woman." No, originally your statement was about the woman's PERCEIVED self-worth following being dumped in favor of dating men.
"Possible negative consequences" sure pal, no one's trying to say that's not possible, I'm trying to say it's not logical, and more importantly, it's damaging to the acceptance of bi/pan and gay folk. I will not allow straight people whose exes go on to date the opposite gender to feel some sort of righteous indignation about how their ex was lying, or perpetuate some fear-mongering myth that being dumped by someone who then gets in a homo relationship must or should damage your sense of self worth.
For your next point: being principled and angry about when someone cheats is one thing. Being angry at someone close to you for not coming out to you is a bit more complex, but imo you're taking it personally when it isn't about you. "Use her as a beard without knowledge or permission" 1) we don't know Gavin's parents backstory, for all we know she knew the whole time and consented and hates him for it anyway because she's a bitter homophobe. 2) you possess a striking lack of compassion for what is a very common situation among bis and even some gay folk- they repress so hard that THEY DON'T REALIZE they are queer and enter the relationship honestly and with affection toward their partner. Later, if they feel certain they are not straight (which, if you don't cheat or have an open relationship can be DAMN hard to be certain of), and the time comes that they should come out, the risk is SO GREAT, the damage and the drama and the turmoil too much, they WILL hesitate, the question is how many times. And then the couplw will probably try to make it work. So, we have potentially years, if not decades of repression, then years, if not decades of staying in the closet out of uncertainty and fear, and then potentially a few years of a fatally damaged ship with the crew trying hard to bail it out.
But sure, yeah bi and gay guys (and girls, for that matter) born into oppressive and homophobic societies and regions and religions, it's their fault because they LIED TO US!
And with the last bit, I'm just being realistic, in that a small group of bi men choose to date men exclusively after bad experiences (or I guess in the case of one long hellish relationshi) with women. In this case the girl(s) really did drive him to being gay. Political lesbians did it all the time back in the day, probably still do. But women can't possibly be bad like men, right?
But most of the time, who you date after a breakup has far less to do with the ex than with the new couple themselves.

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