Why I Love You

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August 18th, 2013, 6:22 pm

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For a moment, imagine that you’re Rain’s position. Are you satisfied with his answer?

And how about Holly and Devon? Any danger of them figuring anything out from that?

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August 18th, 2013, 6:51 pm

Allie (Guest)

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Well it doesn't sound like he's saying she's an exception *to his orientation*, so unless he's using "gay" in a way that only refers to either romantic or sexual attraction rather than both, he's basically either declaring that he sees her as a dude - in which case I'd break up with him as soon as we were away from the others, if I was Rain - or he's breaking up with her. I'm also not sure how I'd feel about the idea that I'm extra-strong just because I'm alive

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August 18th, 2013, 6:53 pm

Allie (Guest)

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As for Holly and Devon... well... they're both pretty stupid, lol

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August 18th, 2013, 6:55 pm

Rain (Guest)

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I would accept that answer.

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August 18th, 2013, 7:16 pm

Hannah (Guest)

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My last girlfriend was straight, unfortunately, and she gave me pretty much the same answer when I'd ask her what she thought about my future plans regarding transitioning. I worried about it a lot, but when it came right down to it, I eventually made peace with both the fortunate, and unfortunate answer that "Love is blind". We broke up because we both had our entire lives ahead of us, but that didn't change the fact that we loved each other. In other words... I don't imagine it's a very satisfying explanation to Rain in the moment, but I believe that if she thinks about it, though it may not be just cause for staying in the relationship, she will eventually come to terms with the fact that sexuality and romantic attraction do not always coincide, and that while that may be frustrating, it also means that Rudy doesn't necessarily have feelings for her because of her anatomy. I think it might take a little bit of time... but eventually she'll feel better about it, and accept Rudy's attraction to her for what it is, an attraction to HER rather than to the parts she unfortunately has.

I don't think there's any real threat of Holly figuring out what exactly Rudy meant by that, but then again... sometimes it takes an airhead to make sense of things that other people would just think too hard about. So it's a tough call with her.

As for Devon, who knows, we don't really know enough about his background to make any assumptions about how much or how little he might know about trans people, if anything. Granted the same could be said about Holly, but I think what I mentioned before will probably be more of a deciding factor for whether or not she catches on.

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August 18th, 2013, 10:09 pm

Danielle (Guest)

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I like that he didn't actually out her... although holly and devon probably are going to ask questions now...

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August 18th, 2013, 11:43 pm

WiddleMow

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I would personally talk to Rudy about this in private. For being in public, his answer is great. Yet I am unhappy with it. I think Rudy saying he's gay is a red flag of a source of confusion. I dislike the labeling of all of the types of love- but if Rudy loves Rain for who she is inside, and out outside- what is he? But he still says he's gay.

I'm lost. XD

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August 19th, 2013, 1:41 am

LilyFlareVII

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Hmm, I think it sounds more like a 'This is why I love you as a person and friend' type of explanation. Like, how do I say this, like admiration? Like loving what a person stands for and wanting to be around them all the time because they inspire you. But that doesn't necessarily translate to romantic love.

PS, lol Holly

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August 19th, 2013, 3:07 am

Jaebird (Guest)

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I would be satisfied with Rudy's answer. For one thing, Rudy's never claimed to believe he's no longer gay. Just because it isn't thrown out for us to see, doesn't mean he doesn't find boys attractive.

I mean, when you pass someone on the street, you know if they're physically attractive, right? I think by "I'm still gay" Rudy means that it's still boys in general he finds attractive. At least on a conscious level, I don't think he sees Rain as a guy.

Whether or not he's physically attracted to Rain, it's hard to say. He certainly seems more inclined to physical affection than she is.

LilyflareVII mentioned that his explanation doesn't necessarily translate to romantic love, which I think is a good point. Does Rudy love Rain, I think he truly does. Is his reason for loving her completely valid, I believe it is. Will it be "enough" for a long-term relationship, probably not. I never got the impression that these two would be each other's happy-ever-after. They're a good couple, but they were always going to hit problems later on.

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August 19th, 2013, 6:08 am

name goes here (Guest)

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Did... did Rudy just out Rain? O_O

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August 19th, 2013, 8:57 am

Pika (Guest)

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I really hope they're going to break up in this chapter.

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August 19th, 2013, 9:28 am

Noah/Becca

Sorry for the novel

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I am totally satisfied with his answer. True love should not be held back by sexual attraction. That is only a part of the whole equation. We call it 'making love', but really is it not an act that stem from a love that is already there? Rudy loves Rain the person, not Rain the body, and that is something that is very precious and rare these days.

On the other hand, it probably could have waited till they were someplace private.

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August 19th, 2013, 1:25 pm

Grace (Guest)

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Rudy could be homosexual and biromantic, but that doesn't seem to be what he's implying here.

If I were Rain, I wouldn't be happy with that answer... But if I were Rudy, I wouldn't be able to come up with anything better. It's a hard situation, with nobody making any obvious mistakes.

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August 19th, 2013, 3:24 pm

Rosalia.C

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I actually have to sympathize with Rudy on this one. I'm homosexual but biromantic, so by each boyfriend that I've had, I had to to have a similar conversation. You know you like whoever you're with, and it really hurts when they have any amount of doubt.

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August 19th, 2013, 5:25 pm

Flexor (Guest)

Well Put

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I really liked Rudy's explanation for loving Rain, wish I could say I could love someone the same way, my attraction in a lover is both physical and mental. I think if I was in Rain's shoes right now, I would be incredibly scared that Rudy has accidentily outed me, though that is a in the moment fear when everything that has happened hasn't completely been processed in my mind. Also, I love how Holly felt like she had to raise her hand, Jocelyn you are a master at adding that little bit in to break up a serious situation and keep it light

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August 20th, 2013, 12:24 am

AmyC89 (Guest)

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Well... I think Rudy just confessed to being absolutely in the dark as to why Rain is the exception to his gay orientation...

But... he just said that he admires her strength, and even if the reasons for seeing her as strong include her just going out and living her life... I don't think they're horrible reasons.

If I was Rain I'd worry that he just inadvertently outed me by implication, but Rudy is speaking from the heart and probably moderating it for public... so I think he did a good job.

Although I can't see this love lasting long-term any more than I could a week ago.

xx
Amy

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August 21st, 2013, 4:58 am

Allie (Guest)

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Hmm or maybe Rudy's saying "he" is also trans*, and gay for girls? *shrugs* it's a long shot

Or maybe he's gotten confused about language and using "gay" in a way that includes bisexuality?

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December 29th, 2014, 6:06 pm

Kimiko (Guest)

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It's not about 'refusing to let any of that stop you', Rudy. It's about having no other choice.

And yes, I bet Rain is really scared that he's outed her right now.

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