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July 31st, 2014, 5:35 pm

LittleLynn84

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Oh. Oh! Ooooohhh~!

This update and the last were not scripted. In fact, Ana was not planned to be in this chapter at all. The original plan was to not even bring up this piece of information for like another four or five chapters. However, there has been a lot of debate surrounding Ana's character, and I would say a good number of people had a decent idea of where I was going with her. And with people catching on, I didn't want to drag it out longer than necessary (in an effort to try not to repeat the Maria x Emily thing that MOST people figured out much sooner than I'd anticipated). I'm learning. XD

So, pat yourself on the back if you picked up on this much of Ana's story sooner than now. And happy surprise twist page if you didn't. Perhaps the last page makes a little bit more sense now if you reread it. ;)

Still, with all that said, I hesitate to call this page a "reveal". Not because a lot of people guessed this far. Rather, it's because we're not done, and nobody (as far as I saw) had the whole thing. Ana's pretty complicated. So expect to be learning much more about her in the future...

...just not next time. Scene change. XD


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July 31st, 2014, 5:51 pm

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I'm happy for her, and I'm sure that Rain and Ana are going to help each other a lot eventually.

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July 31st, 2014, 5:56 pm

Morrigan_DeLevain

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"Error in judgment"? Was she born intersex, or am I reading more into the wording than I should?

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August 11th, 2015, 2:40 pm

TallMist

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@Morrigan_DeLevain: That's what I thought, too. Then I read the TVTropes page and it said that Ana is transgender. I sent @LittleLynn84 a message here on Smackjeeves to ask her just a few minutes ago.

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August 11th, 2015, 3:25 pm

LittleLynn84

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@TallMist:

I don't maintain the Rain TV Tropes page (I like looking at it, but I don't contribute). It's purely done by the readers. And while I haven't looked at it in a while, there HAVE been errors based on assumption before.

That said, it's never been directly confirmed whether Ana is or isn't whatever people may assume she is. Therefore, I cannot confirm or deny it either way at this time.

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July 31st, 2014, 6:01 pm

Pacce (Guest)

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@Morrigan_DeLevain:
Reading a little too much into it. Quite simply, they thought she was a boy until she pointed out that she was not.

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July 31st, 2014, 6:06 pm

RileaSW (Guest)

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*Boom!*

That was my mind. It was just blown.

That explains SO, SO MUCH! Glad to see her father seems to accept her, but I'm wondering what mom thinks of it...

I'm kinda worried. :\

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July 31st, 2014, 6:14 pm

Kituki

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@LittleLynn84: I knew it I knew it! gavin's in for a surprise. so's Rain.

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July 31st, 2014, 6:50 pm

bassofthe

Wat.

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This makes no sense. How could she then not know what cis means?

http://rainlgbt.smackjeeves.com/comics/1863904/cis/

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July 31st, 2014, 7:08 pm

LittleLynn84

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@bassofthe:

Actually, a lot of people don't know what cis means. That includes trans folk.

But what I was going for then was that she was playing dumb. She had a secret she didn't want Gavin to know about. So when this key word came up, she pretended she'd never heard it before. It'd be safer for her to not know than to risk the possibility of Gavin saying, "Oh, you actually know that term?"

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July 31st, 2014, 7:12 pm

bassofthe

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@LittleLynn84: Oh, that actually makes sense =^^=

On the other hand, not drawing attention to it at all would probably be the safest. Did she hope Gavin would say more about his apparently non-cis friends?

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July 31st, 2014, 7:55 pm

Lenn

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@Morrigan_DeLevain:
It's a possibility.

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July 31st, 2014, 8:03 pm

Raff01 (Guest)

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@bassofthe

To be honest, until about a year or two ago, I had never heard of the term cis. And I've been dealing with transgender feelings for many years now. Not sure where I first saw the term, but I think it was a web comic.

Plus with the terms and definitions seeming to alter, change and add as the years pass, it is possible that someone who spends more time moving, and alone, or with just her father, may not have ever seen or heard the term.

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July 31st, 2014, 8:09 pm

Jeana Star (Guest)

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tyfzytxftrcftxcrtrfadstr Is Ana intersexual??? Cuz that's what I'm thinking! I first, I thought she was trans, and she could be, but now I'm thinking that she's intersexual!

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July 31st, 2014, 8:20 pm

Crestchan

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Huh, maybe Rain's Transceiver works better then she thinks.

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July 31st, 2014, 10:58 pm

phoebeburgh

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I'm surprised nobody's noticed how crumpled up the photo looks... Way to sneak that in there, Lynn!

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August 1st, 2014, 1:00 am

Anon (Guest)

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I guessed this from the second Gavin thought she was attractive.. oops.

I'm guessing she's intersex, though, because of the fact that there's already enough transwomen in this story. idk. Some variety is nice.

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August 1st, 2014, 1:12 am

Zee (Guest)

About time

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Intersex I hope so, not many out there in webcomics... Kinda a bit draining reading lately.

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August 1st, 2014, 1:25 am

Thera (Guest)

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Why is each and every transperson in a webcomic super passable? This is depressing.

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August 1st, 2014, 4:30 am

Elizabeth (Guest)

WOO HOO!

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THANK YOU SO MUCH Lynn! WOW, an intersexed character! It reminds me so much of myself, that was born intersexed. It was at 5 years of age that my parents made the decision, the wrong one, to raise me as male. Did I pass as male? HELL NO! Now I'm going through therapy and transitioning. Unlike some inters, I'm 60% female, with XX chromosomes and figure to match. It was torture in school, and I had no friends. With that being said, I would like to see a character that is non-passable, trying to present as male and not being entirely successful, and being intersexed. It would reflect the misery of those of us that are not diagnosed correctly by the medical community. By the way, the intersexed make up 1% of the population. You would be surprised how many of us there are!

Kudos to Lynn! High five to you honey! This was a really good one.

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August 1st, 2014, 5:34 am

samuelxx (Guest)

nice

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I just discovered Rain through the r/lgbteens subreddit less than a week ago, and by now I've read the entire story! (it's that good) amazing as always! Soon, I'm going to buy the paperback volumes as well.

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August 1st, 2014, 5:56 am

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@Thera: I don't know. I'm trying to imagine the opposite being anything but depressing, but it's an unfortunate reality some of us have to live.

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August 1st, 2014, 8:27 am

Allie (Guest)

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I did wonder if Ana was trans* :)

I hope that means affirming therapy, and not "reparative therapy" or something :/

Hmm, you know you have a daughter when your daughter tells you she's a girl, not when she asks for a dress. There's no reason a boy, at the age of 3 - ie having had relatively little conditioning regarding prescribed gender roles - wouldn't necessarily like how he looks in a dress. Although obviously he shouldn't have assumed she was a boy in the first place either

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August 1st, 2014, 8:30 am

Allie (Guest)

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@Morrigan_DeLevain: oh, good question!

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August 1st, 2014, 1:05 pm

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I knew an FTM who didn't know what 'trans man' and 'trans woman' meant, and those are way more common terms than 'cis'.

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August 1st, 2014, 1:53 pm

R (Guest)

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@Morrigan_DeLevain: i thought the same thing so just gotta wait and see

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August 1st, 2014, 6:51 pm

MelodyRae (Guest)

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*squeeeee!!!*

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August 1st, 2014, 6:54 pm

Tera (Guest)

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@Thera: For Ana shes been living her life as a girl since she was 3, which means she would of more than likely started hormones and transitioned around when she was 12 or so, around the age puberty starts, so its not that surprising that she's so passable.

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August 1st, 2014, 10:26 pm

terderrer (Guest)

say what?!

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Gonna be honest with ya, i thought she was just gonna move away again, I was not expecting this twist at all. But a question I do have is, where is she going?

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August 2nd, 2014, 2:00 pm

RobinTheGrey

WOW

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I should have known! Another good post :)

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August 2nd, 2014, 9:10 pm

Silverback

Story!

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Ok, I was just introduced to this story in the past couple weeks and finally made it to the current updates.

I have to say, I love this story, I adore you for making this for all of us!

I have to give a shout-out for Gavin, who is the character I identify with I guess. Cis-gendered hetero male with a wide circle of friends across the spectrum. (Though not as closely together as this group! They still mostly go to the same school, which is a big help)

Anyhow, I feel kinda bad for Gavin. He had feelings for Rain, but she she started dating Rudy. That turned bad when Rain realized her true feelings (well, bad for Rudy and Gavin, good news for Rain and her future romance!)

My OTP for Gavin is Ky. And he missed his opportunity twice. Once when he was still on the fence about Rain, and Ky ... gave him the revelation of his young life in the janitor closet. Now he is interested in Ana (which may be a good thing) and Kylie admits she has had interest in him. But he finds this out AFTER he starts wooing Ana. And now Drew steps in.

Gavin Gavin Gavin. Never get's a break. But that's what makes a good story.

Keep up the good work Jocelyn!

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August 3rd, 2014, 11:43 am

Narkota16

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Sorry for asking, but what's the difference between trans and intersex? I'm a bit confused and I don't know terms that well.

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August 3rd, 2014, 1:04 pm

Haldo (Guest)

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@Narkota16: A trans person identifies with a different gender than what they were assigned at birth. An intersex person was born with genitalia that wasn't clearly "male genitalia" or "female genitalia" (like someone born with a vulva and testicles, for example. There's more than one way someone could be intersex.) I think they're not mutually exclusive terms.

I'm glad there's still more to find out about this character! Also OMIGOSH SHE HAS AN OCTI. That makes me like her more. Bubbles was one of my favorite cartoon characters as a kid.

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August 4th, 2014, 2:27 am

Gulby

?...

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Gniiiih... No new update yet ?... I hope Jocelyn is fine ! :/ And I DO want to know what happens next ! :D

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August 4th, 2014, 10:27 am

Nick (Guest)

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Talk about perfect person for Gavin :P .. or Rain :D .. Damn, don't know who to ship, both perfect matches, augh. I'll just cheer for both, then I can be happy either way.

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August 15th, 2014, 4:47 am

Elizabeth (Guest)

Sexual Assignment at Birth

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As far as being trans or intersex, I can tell you from personal experience that the medical community usually have blinders on, and "assign" a sex at birth if one has ambiguous genitalia. It depends on the geographic location, and the physician. If they don't do a test for chromosomes, then they literally flip a coin and then you become a boy or girl regardless of chromosomes or brain gender. There is a push to stop this practice, but it is still done far too often. At least her father was more understanding than most, but a lot of the time this is not the case.

Since this strip still takes place during school, I wondered how Ana handled PE classes? If she's intersexed with a larger clit, that would be noticeable, and would either have to change elsewhere, or get a physician's letter excepting her from the horrors of having to change in front of people.

So is Ana intersexed? I would like to think so, since that is what I identify with. If she is not, it's no big deal, but the trials and tribulations of being intersexed are more than being trans, and I would like to see that story told.

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September 22nd, 2014, 2:05 pm

Valley

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Whew, glade I a not the only one who thought intersex the second the father said he made a mistake. All I could think of was that book, Fool For Love by Lisa Lees, with that cool cover from Jade Gordon.

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October 20th, 2014, 5:07 pm

J Page (Guest)

another hint at being "I"

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There is another reason to think she might be / probably is intersex, people.

Back when the t-shirt was advertised, she mentioned that she couldn't have the Pan or IS people on it, since they hadn't been revealed.

Which means there was, even at the time, plans to intro someone who's IS.

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December 31st, 2014, 10:47 am

Kimiko (Guest)

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Maybe it's just me, but I find the reveal (well, not much of one for most readers it seems) to be a bit awkward here. Why that piece of paper with the names on it? If Ana's been a girl since age three, why is her dad suddenly now reminiscing about it (other than story purpose of course)?

Also a bit jelly that she got to grow up with the right gender and puberty. I wonder how Rain will feel about that when she finds out.

Or maybe she won't. Ana's very much stealth. And with good reason really. If you pass that perfectly, and have so few memories of being the worng sex, there's really not much reason to want to tell people.

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April 26th, 2015, 12:11 am

Microraptr (Guest)

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Wait, this was supposed to be a surprise?

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May 31st, 2015, 2:06 am

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Dang, you love discluding logic by making every main character of yours gay or trans. Especially in this scenario, it is inlogical.
Note: I don't hate gays or trans, or anything in between.

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May 31st, 2015, 7:33 am

LittleLynn84

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@silver-wolf:

Every main character except for all the ones that aren't, you mean? Like Gavin, or any of the other classmates outside of the main friend group, or Rain's siblings. The queer and trans characters only make up about a third of the cast (and I'd consider that a low ratio, to be honest).

I know I shouldn't take the bait, but why is this particular scenario so illogical?

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May 31st, 2015, 5:25 pm

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@LittleLynn84:
sorry, I didn't mean to be rude. It's just, two transgendered boys at one high school? I dunno. Sorry if I offended you.







and for the record, I said MAIN characters.

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May 31st, 2015, 6:19 pm

LittleLynn84

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@silver-wolf:

I'm not offended. I just hear that more than I like. It's not really that unlikely though. In my personal experience with the people I know, and with how I grew up, there'd be a really promising chance there are other trans folk in that school - closeted and afraid to speak up - that Rain will unwittingly never interact with.

Also, Rain is not a transgender boy. If they identify as female, they are female. Hence, Rain would be a trans girl (regardless of the conditions of her birth).

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June 21st, 2016, 11:33 pm

TranshumanAr (Guest)

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This seems like a heartwarming panel. So cute!

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December 29th, 2016, 1:44 pm

Ultimate Legacy

CALLED IT!

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Damn it there was no one to take the bet with me, I knew Ana had that secret...damnit! I could've made an easy buck, still, I CALLED IT

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