The Dragon

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August 4th, 2015, 4:19 pm

LittleLynn84

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What a colorful page. I can't remember the last time I packed six relevant characters into one panel. XD

Okay, but being serious(ish), I know a lot of people were expecting Fara to come in and bring fury and rage down upon Kellen. It would've been too easy though, and too expected (and I don't want to feel like I'm promoting violence). Instead, have you ever gotten in SO MUCH trouble that your parents/teacher/whatever didn't yell... and somehow that was worse? They'd say something like, "I'm not mad. I'm disappointed." That's where Fara is.

That's kind of where everyone is, really. It's exhausting to argue with someone who doesn't listen. What's the point of fighting with her? They could present her with logic and reason until they're blue in the face, but it's only going to make her retaliate more. Sometimes the best way to shut someone up is to not fight back. Let them yell. Let them look and feel like a fool when they're the only one arguing.

Or take a page out of coolheaded Vincent's book, and be sweet as pie. Irrationally angry people HATE that. Especially when you "innocently" point out that their devious plan has utterly failed. XD


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August 4th, 2015, 4:34 pm

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Darn, I wanted violence. :(

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August 4th, 2015, 10:26 pm

Fairportfan

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@Guest: Me too.

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August 4th, 2015, 4:54 pm

Dragoness K (Guest)

To be honest

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This was kinda disappointing. We didn't see fara or kellen during the last few strips, even in the background so it seemed like it'd be logical they were talking to eachother during that time. Even now that we see them, Fara doesn't even seem MAD. Maybe she's cooled off a bit, so it could make sense that she wouldnt be as aggressive to kellen as she was to Aiken when he fucked up majorly, but it'd seem like she'd still have said or acted a lot differently than this. It doesnt really seem consistent. I read the author comments, but it doesn't seem quite in character with Fara's usual demeanor. Maybe it's just me and I'm wrong, but this is what makes sense to me.

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August 4th, 2015, 4:58 pm

TallMist

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@Dragoness K: I completely agree with you.

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August 4th, 2015, 5:23 pm

LittleLynn84

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@Dragoness K:

Fara's top priority right now is Rain, and she knows how her niece thinks (she raised her, after all). She knows Rain is upset. She knows that if yelling or violence erupts from this, Rain is only going to be more upset. And she knows Kellen's not going to respond well to anything she says. What Fara doesn't know is what - if any - solution would get through to Kellen.

So Fara focuses on what she does know. Rain is her responsibility, and she needs to be taken out of this hostile environment. That she can do, so that's what she will do. That's how parenting works. Her kid (or niece in this case) is more important than her pride or her need to be right or anything else.

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August 4th, 2015, 4:56 pm

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So, all that build up only for "What did you think that'd do?" and "She looks good with short hair. Here's a card."

Ehhh. Very disappointing. But whatever, it's your comic. :)

And you do make valid points about it.

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August 4th, 2015, 5:24 pm

LittleLynn84

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@TallMist:

Fara's top priority right now is Rain, and she knows how her niece thinks (she raised her, after all). She knows Rain is upset. She knows that if yelling or violence erupts from this, Rain is only going to be more upset. And she knows Kellen's not going to respond well to anything she says. What Fara doesn't know is what - if any - solution would get through to Kellen.

So Fara focuses on what she does know. Rain is her responsibility, and she needs to be taken out of this hostile environment. That she can do, so that's what she will do. That's how parenting works. Her kid (or niece in this case) is more important than her pride or her need to be right or anything else.

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August 4th, 2015, 5:28 pm

TallMist

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@LittleLynn84: Again, very valid points. I was just expecting something a little bit... more. Even if not a full blown argument or shout-fest.

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August 4th, 2015, 5:31 pm

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@LittleLynn84: I gotta ask, though. Do you plan to bring Kellen back into the story after this plotline?

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August 4th, 2015, 5:35 pm

LittleLynn84

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@TallMist:

Oh, absolutely. She's still very relevant, so Kellen will appear a fair bit in the future. How, when, and why will have to be saved for another time though. ^_^

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August 4th, 2015, 5:37 pm

TallMist

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@LittleLynn84: Ah, but of course! We don't want spoilers now, do we? :D

"Your words, please. We don't want to make a mess of spoilers in front of the Chancellor, now do we?" - Count Dooku, reading a good book with Palpatine

:D

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August 4th, 2015, 4:57 pm

Uinn

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I love Vincent's calm :D

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August 4th, 2015, 4:58 pm

Lenn

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At first I was surprised that there was no yelling. But then Kellen realized that she's all alone and that her stunt did nothing but rally people towards her sister. Seeing her shut down and swear in frustration makes it all better.

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August 4th, 2015, 5:12 pm

Grenartia

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To be fair, I think Vincent's response totally makes up for the lack of righteous fury on Fara's part.

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August 4th, 2015, 5:28 pm

TallMist

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@Grenartia: Haha, that's for sure. XD That got a laugh out of me.

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August 4th, 2015, 5:36 pm

Fan (Guest)

Responce

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I was really hoping for a confrontation, but now, I can't think that any page other than this could be more satisfying. Regardless of my previous thoughts, this is the best answer. Well done.

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August 4th, 2015, 8:54 pm

Same Guest (Guest)

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@Fan:
I want to add to clarify:
I wanted a confrontation. Instead, we all received something much better.

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August 4th, 2015, 5:42 pm

dwerenat

I'm go have to go with...

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disappointed, if only a little. As for "not angry, just disappointed"? I've seen it happen in real life three or four times.

It always resulted in much worse happening a short while later. It may just be that my own upbringing was pretty savage but I would have allowed Vincent to make his joke-- if only to give myself enough time to slide up at his side; and the moment he handed Kellen the card pop goes the bigot.

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August 4th, 2015, 5:51 pm

TJTheGamer

I'm sorry, what?

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Ok, I just read some of the comments and the title tells my reaction. I mainly though people were joking about wanting violence or some massive blow out between fara and kellen. Sure, in more jokey things, its fun to see two characters (pardon my french) Beat the shit out of each other or argue until they are blue in the face but not in rain. Rain is a fun comic, but its also a serious one that addresses problems trans people really have to go through.

To Be honest, A fight or massive argument would have been the wrong thing to do for these strips. I'm a little disappointed in all the people who commented saying they wanted violence or what ever they put.

And Also (@LittleLynn84) this strip still made me chuckle just from the looks on kellen's face and how Vincent reacted. Just proves violence was not needed.

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August 4th, 2015, 7:27 pm

Dragoness K (Guest)

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@TJTheGamer:

There's a difference between what we want and what we expect. Yelling would be in character for Fara, even if not a good thing. It's not what would be best, but it's what quite a few fans of the comic expected from her. What is good and what makes sense are two different things. I want SRS and full breasts and curves today, and it's what would be overwhelmingly best for me, but it's not gonna happen. I'm not even starting E for an inconvenient amount of time, and every day before then is suffering. I absolutely hate it and it's not good, but it's what logically makes sense given the situation.

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August 4th, 2015, 7:53 pm

Microrapter (Guest)

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@TJTheGamer: Quite honestly, a massive fight wouldn't have fit the tone of this comic anyway. This isn't Something Positive or Order of the Stick or Grrl Power where the protagonists actually do solve problems by hitting them, it's a slice-of-life drama about teenagers.

Though that's not going to stop me from imagining Fara sneaking back later after she's found a good place to hide the body...

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August 4th, 2015, 10:22 pm

Grenartia

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@Microrapter:

And for some reason that instantly made me think of Yandere Simulator.

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August 4th, 2015, 10:59 pm

Microrapter (Guest)

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@Grenartia: Only if a teacher doesn't catch her.

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August 6th, 2015, 5:55 pm

Quirk (Guest)

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@TJTheGamer: I definitely *wanted* some kind of punishment for Kellen (as I said in the cut comic), but that was an emotional reaction. I don't think it's actually a good idea at all. I agree with you, this was great, and also realistic. Trans folks and those close to them have to deal with situations like this all the time, and it's never satisfying. Like I said previously, nobody can do anything to Kellen like what she did to Rain, because that's how cis privilege works.

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August 4th, 2015, 6:19 pm

Tera (Actual Name) (Guest)

Fara did the right and logical thing

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I think Fara was as mature as you would expect any adult, especially one dealing with immature and poorly thought out behavior as a teacher does, to be- would be trained to be. I don't think it would be realistic or wise for her to strike or yell at Kellen, which would only make the entire situation more negative and everyone else seem crazy and wrong in Kellen's eyes. And as far as I can remember, aside from swatting her colleague on the nose with rolled up poster paper, Fara's never proven to be much of a physically violent person. And despite the fact that she must have given Colin what-for, whatever she did must not have been so off-putting or violent to drive him away. So this reaction to Kellen seems perfectly logical to me.

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August 4th, 2015, 7:19 pm

TjTheGamer (Guest)

I agree

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I agree with the comment above.

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August 4th, 2015, 8:03 pm

kinda disappointed (Guest)

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not in the comic; in the comments. or at least some of em.

look at kellen's face at the bottom of the first page. fara punched her in the stomach way more effectively than she could've done with her fists. plus violence in this situation would be futile and ultimately a waste of panels.

like have yall been absent for the past three chapters? kellen isn't gonna listen to reason, so what makes you think she'd listen to yelling and punching? i know people like this. kellen would just take it as "ohhhhh theyre being ~violent~ that means theyre irrational and Wrong!!!!11one"

a big-ass fight scene right now would be super out of character (fara is violent occasionally, but she knows how to handle things with her words alone, which we've seen before) and frankly, it would've been an unsound narrative. kellen wouldn't have come around, fara could've been arrested (making things harder for everyone, especially rain), and we would have nothing new to look at except kellen's face getting (rightfully) bashed in, fara sitting in a holding cell, and rain 3x as depressed as she is right now.

TL;DR: A FIGHT WOULD HAVE ADDED NOTHING TO THE STORY. ZIP. ZERO. NADA.

so maybe instead of throwing criticism bc yall got pumped up for a fight that was literally never promised to you and trying to pick holes and find excuses for why this webcomic (WHICH HAS A HIGHLY REALISTIC STORY TONE IN GENERAL) should barrel straight into slapstick city, you could, i dunno, look at whats in front of your face and appreciate how well-constructed this story actually is????? just a suggestion :/

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August 4th, 2015, 8:52 pm

TallMist

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@kinda disappointed: Um, none of us were actually looking for a fight scene. Just for Fara to yell at Kellen. You're reeeaaally exaggerating it. :P

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August 5th, 2015, 2:04 pm

uh (Guest)

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@TallMist: an argument is a verbal fight, and "argument scene" doesnt really sound right. the word "argument" is implied. and my point still stands :P

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August 5th, 2015, 2:35 pm

TallMist

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@uh: "but she knows how to handle things with her words alone"

"TL;DR: A FIGHT WOULD HAVE ADDED NOTHING TO THE STORY. ZIP. ZERO. NADA."

"an argument is a verbal fight, and "argument scene" doesnt really sound right. the word "argument" is implied. and my point still stands :P"


Now you're confusing me

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August 4th, 2015, 8:06 pm

cathyfan (Guest)

i'm looking forward

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to how what has happened will affect rain's relationships when she goes back to school.

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August 4th, 2015, 9:54 pm

Lia47 (Guest)

ahahaha

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f u kellen

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August 4th, 2015, 11:22 pm

Pixie and Gage (Guest)

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As a mother I completely agree with what Fara did. In a situation like that as angry as you are what is best for your child comes to mind first. I have plenty of people in life that I would love to scream at for my child but my son would then become upset and well my son has a problem with chewing skin off his fingers and he is only 3. I put what he needs over how I would love to react. Parenting is a hard road but strength is a must. I actually almost came to blows with my dad over how my son identify. He is nether boy or girl, just Gage. It makes me proud. My dad how ever freaks out over it. Okay well dad if that is how you feel then I have no need for you to be around my son or myself as I am genderfluid and pansexual. Have a wonderful life and thank you for your time. My dad eventually came around and we don't talk about that stuff. Its hard to not go all mama/daddy bear on someone over your child but its worth it. Good work on how a parent should react to a situation like that. I love it.

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August 5th, 2015, 12:18 am

Avistew (Guest)

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I actually liked this page. Vincent was awesome and I think he's got the right attitude. Make Kellen feel like whatever she says or does is irrelevant. I mean, with such a gesture (violent, sneaky), she obviously wanted to make a bang, be noticed, make waves. Ignoring her (or her intent) is probably the best response.

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August 5th, 2015, 1:03 am

MelodyRae (Guest)

Taking the high road.

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I think violence wouldn't have helped anything in the situation. Nothing good can come from it. But seeing everyone you love tell you you're wrong, then simply turn their backs on you? That might make you think if maybe YOU aren't the one on the wrong side of it. It's a good way to get someone to reflect. Vincent's little remark at the end was excellent too. "Oh hey, not only are you ignorant, your plan also made her look cuter." Very well written.

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August 5th, 2015, 1:29 am

Rain Dreamer (Guest)

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I feel like this makes more sense than all out violence. I mean, what will makes kellen think more about what she did? A slap in the face, or a gentle reminder that, she has failed as a family member to those who are close to her?

Mind that she is, in a way, caring about her sibling. She did what she did because she think it would do good for Rain, out of ignorant. Ignorance is not an excuse, but to meet ignorance with violence will not do anything better. If we slap her, all she will remember is that slap, and nothing more. Let she think about what she did, however, will give her sleepless nights.

I wonder what kind of talk Kellen and Aiken will have later.

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August 5th, 2015, 2:38 am

Nesagsar

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Let the Vincent snark run through you. Almost as good as violence.

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August 5th, 2015, 6:50 am

Chrissy (Guest)

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I wonder if Aiken is going to clue Kellen in on Vincent's prior identity...

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August 5th, 2015, 8:40 am

RileaSW (Guest)

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Fara being so level headed about this is just awesome. I'm glad there wasn't any yelling and whatnot.

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August 5th, 2015, 10:11 am

Don Edwards (Guest)

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Art nitpick: in panel 4 of the first page it looks like Emily is sticking her tongue out at Rain. But it's not clear enough to make me think that's what you intended.

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August 6th, 2015, 3:33 am

cathyfan (Guest)

emily's hair

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@Don Edwards: i have a function on my tablet that lets me magnify & zoom in. i think that's part of emily's hair showing on the other side of her head.

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August 5th, 2015, 10:15 am

Mia the Slime

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I couldn't help but notice a couple people saying they're disappointed with how this turned out, that they were hoping for a confrontation between Fara and Kellen, but honestly, I think this was handled much more realistically. You're more than right when you say that using logic and trying to argue your point to someone like Kellen is about as worthy of your time as teaching a watermelon to roll uphill.

I like to look at this as a more sophisticated, clever version of how Dane Cook says the girl almost always wins when couples fight, only in this case, instead of it being a guy just yelling with the sole intent on making the girl cry, while the girl makes a casual, backdoor comment on how his father is stupid, it's Kellen being a closed-minded bigot (even though I'm sure that in her head, she's the only person doing the right thing), against Fara's pacifism, combined with Vincent's closing quips, leaving little ticking timebombs in her head that she doesn't even know are there. She'll fume for a while, but she's gotta come down from that eventually, be it a couple hours or a couple months, but eventually, one lonely night, she'll think about it, and tick...tick...tick...tick...BOOM! She falls apart.

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August 6th, 2015, 3:20 am

cathyfan (Guest)

i agree

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@Mia the Slime: i agree that getting inside kellen's head is probably more effective than slapping her upside the head.

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August 5th, 2015, 10:50 am

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I must say, I love Emily's expression in the first panel. Its all "Not this person again" and that is just awesome.

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August 5th, 2015, 9:21 pm

HuckFinnGirl92

Truly

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In my opinion, this page reflects a situation that actually happens quite a lot. In my own life, this scenario has played out many times centered around different topics and definitely has a tendency to bring people together even if one of the people involved doesn't like it.

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August 6th, 2015, 1:02 am

comicgirl

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I won't say I expected violence or even yelling. But... I will say it still felt anticlimactic to me.

Not so much the phone call even if the look on her face was real intent. But rather, when Fara got there and learned Kellan was in her room, her words "Good. I don't wanna look at her" gave me more of a... disgusted tone.

To tell the truth, I thought there'd at least be a more direct disowning. Have you ever heard of the term tranquil fury? Or like when someone is so cold to another person that their tone is hard and icy?

All of that was what I expected. Maybe even a combination. Treating Kellan with cold disgust. "You sicken me. Get the hell out of my sight." Then cold shoulder.

But instead she was rather... calm about it. Not cold or even cool. Maybe empty. Which I suppose worked just as well. But I too expected a more extreme reaction though in a different way.

But it's no big issue in the long run.

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August 6th, 2015, 3:23 am

sarahlump

best series ever

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I've never read a book in my life like this comic, this is without a doubt the best comic i've ever seen. and tbh, i can identify with these characters, and i think if you do nothing else, providing a space for people to identify in imo a positive story, is amazing. thank you <3

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August 6th, 2015, 3:24 am

sarahlump

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i think she didn't do anything more was because she understood that rain was hurt, and was there for rain, she wanted to get rain, get her out, make sure she was safe, and support her, getting into a fight with kellen would achieve none of those goals, and she knew where her priorities were.

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August 6th, 2015, 12:03 pm

anonymous (Guest)

perfect

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Honestly, i don't know what all the fuss is about. Nothing seems off, by any means.




And one way or another, Vincent's reaction is just perfect.

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August 6th, 2015, 12:36 pm

Bird (Guest)

Everybody's looking for a fight...

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Everybody's so focused on Fara and Kellen. I want to know what Rain is thinking because the look on Emily's face when she looks at her is a cross between worried and horrified. She's probably just crying again but priorities people, Emily and Fara seem to have them, not sure about everyone else ;)

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August 6th, 2015, 2:43 pm

Z (Guest)

Look at her face!

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I seriously don't see what everyone's complaining about. This is one of the funniest pages to date! XD

Also, Emily's face in the first panel is just the best.

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August 6th, 2015, 3:25 pm

Robyn (Guest)

Shipping

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Is it just me or can anyone else see this being a place for a much stronger bond of Rain and Emily? or is it Ramily...maybe Emain?

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August 9th, 2015, 1:28 am

Guest Guy (Guest)

SHORT HAIR!!

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Dear Mademoiselle Lynn,

Strangely, this is not the first time I've said this, but you're comic is making me once again say a line usually reserved for women.

WHY MUST ALL THE BEST ONES BE GAY?!


Thank you for making Rain into a character I have honestly fallen in love with, even though I know that she's not into guys. Though I know that I shall never be able to break that barrier to my love, I hope that I might chat with her platonically in my dreams tonight.

I love the new pixie cut most of all, regardless of its origins. You basically tapped into my hair style of all time. All of my crushes (except for my first girlfriend) have had this hairstyle, from my first crush to my celebrity crush, Emma Watson.

God Bless you and your fictional children (I consider an author's character's their children) Mademoiselle Lynn!

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February 27th, 2017, 2:57 pm

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SON KNOWS WHAT'S UP.

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