Forgetting

posted November 1st, 2015, 4:25 pm


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November 1st, 2015, 4:29 pm

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Rain and Emily's respective woes continue (but it's still much more lighthearted than the last couple pages). In Rain's case, now she has to worry about even the teachers getting on her about her hair. In Emily's, we have Debbie being particularly hard on her, not knowing why Emily keeps forgetting her gym clothes. Even beyond that, Debbie starts showing some clear jealousy in her best friend hanging out with other people.

Here's the thing. It's super easy to just go "Welp, Debbie's a bitch" and leave it at that. But let's consider her perspective for a minute. Debbie doesn't know the real Emily, nor does she know anything she's going through (as stated by Emily herself). She only knows the self-serving, queen bee, Miss Perfect persona Emily fronted in the beginning of the story. In short, Debbie doesn't know her best friend at all. And now Emily's "acting out of character" and gradually moving away from her, offering no explanation whatsoever.

I can't really blame Emily for not wanting to rock the boat more than necessary, considering she doesn't think it'll go well if she comes clean. But I also find it hard to blame Debbie. I've been in her position and I've lost friends for reasons I STILL don't know. It is frustrating. I'm not saying Debbie is totally innocent (she's definitely approaching this the wrong way). But I can sympathize.


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November 1st, 2015, 4:40 pm

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Looks like some else should lose some of their old friends.
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On a more artistic note. I've notice that the pose are more 'loses' instead of 'stiff' (if that makes sense) have you been experimenting with poses?

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November 1st, 2015, 4:51 pm

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@00Stevo:

I've been experimenting a bit since the dream chapter (which forced me out of my comfort zone a lot). There's still more stiff/easy poses than I'd like, but I'm trying to squeeze in more interesting poses and movements whenever I can. Rain isn't the best-looking comic in the world, but I do what I can. ^_^

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November 1st, 2015, 5:22 pm

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I don't find it hard to blame Debbie at all. I used to be like "Eh, she's not THAT bad", but now, on this page, saying "Now you like anime and hang out with gays?" as if that's a bad thing. OK, yeah, sure, her friend is acting way different than how she knew her to, but still! That doesn't excuse just how rude and wrong that was.

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November 1st, 2015, 5:35 pm

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@TallMist:

I'm not saying she's not doing anything wrong. She IS still kind of a bitch. But I would be upset too if my best friend stopped hanging out with me and wouldn't explain why. And sometimes, when people get frustrated, they say things they don't necessarily mean.

Again, I don't mean to excuse her. I'm just offering some perspective.

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November 1st, 2015, 6:05 pm

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@LittleLynn84: I actually did have a best friend that stopped talking to me and refused to explain why... Or ever say another word to me ever again... So I already got the perspective

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November 1st, 2015, 6:22 pm

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I've been the Emily in this situation, and I've had my fair number of Debbie's. I love my friends dearly, but I move around a lot, and my biggest focus is always my present surroundings.

It's not pretty, but I can sympathize.

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November 1st, 2015, 8:12 pm

Clarice (Guest)

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Really hating Debbie, now. I'd totally prefer her to never speak to Emily again, because of how stupid Debbie is. XD

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November 1st, 2015, 8:50 pm

Grenartia

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Do Catholic schools really put boys on one side and girls on the other, during gym? That was never my experience during Baptist school. Like, for the first 2 years I was there, there were boys only and girls only classes (from 7th-12th grades), but then they merged it by gender and divided by grades.

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November 1st, 2015, 9:42 pm

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@Grenartia:

Honestly, the gender separation was my experience with gym class from 7th grade on, both in Catholic school and public school. I honestly just thought it was standard practice for the longest time. But way back in Chapter 2, a lot of readers questioned the gender separation because their schools didn't, so I guess my schools may have just been oddballs. XD

Either way, maybe it's not the case for every Catholic school, but they are separated in St. Hallvard at the very least.

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November 2nd, 2015, 11:25 pm

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@LittleLynn84: With my schools it was kind of the reverse. We had separate gym classes at the elementary school level and from 6th grade on the only thing separated was the locker rooms.

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November 1st, 2015, 10:18 pm

KrimsonNekros

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@Grenartia: Having gone to Catholic school, yes. We were in separate classes. Had separate classes in public school too.

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November 2nd, 2015, 12:00 am

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@Grenartia: I was in public high school in Canada and we had separate girls' and boys' gym classes. I never heard of any that were not separated, religious or otherwise.

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November 2nd, 2015, 12:49 am

Jason (Guest)

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@Grenartia:
The gender separation for gym class might be a generational difference a bit. I've talked to a number of older people who experienced gender segregated gym in the US but I went to a Catholic 7-12 school and we had co-ed gym. (for reference many Catholic schools used to be completely single gender and some still are. The one I went to merged a boy's school and a girl's school in the '70s).

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November 2nd, 2015, 3:04 am

Amy (Guest)

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@Grenartia: I'm from the UK and went to school from 1989-2000 and at every stage we had separate boys and girls PE classes, there were even sports that only the boys played (football, rugby) and only the girls played (volleyball, hockey). It wasn't until the final year of high school when we could go to the local leisure centre for PE that we had mixed groups to play badminton and squash.

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November 2nd, 2015, 6:05 am

The Aussie Bloke (Guest)

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@Grenartia: Could be a logistics thing (ie: "We don't have enough gym teachers to run separate classes, put 'em in the same class on opposite sides of the gym")

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November 2nd, 2015, 5:25 pm

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Debbie always seems judgmental to me. I can see why Emily might have hung out with her when she was fronting as the Queen Bee, but girl seriously needs to learn some acceptance.

Holly never seemed like Debbie. She's air-headed and doesn't understand, sure, but she seems like she'd be willing to sit and listen. I wanna see more Holly. :P

@Grenartia: It's not just religious schools that separate. Like Jocelyn, my experience has been separate since middle school as well. In high school they actually went to separate gyms. They did occasionally join the classes, but only rarely.

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November 3rd, 2015, 2:13 pm

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@RileaSW: I agree. I'd rather take Holly over Debbie.

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November 1st, 2015, 11:22 pm

Avistew (Guest)

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I've never had a single gym class that separated based on gender in my entire school "career", but from what I understand it's not that uncommon in the US.

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November 2nd, 2015, 6:23 am

cathyfan (Guest)

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during years i went to school gym classes were separate except junior&senior year for dance classes to prepare for prom.

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November 2nd, 2015, 6:53 am

Ari (Guest)

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Wait, is that Rain's natural voice when she says "Ack!"?

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November 2nd, 2015, 12:03 pm

yeah (Guest)

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i've been the 'Debbie' here more times than i'm proud of (albeit without the casual homophobia, and most if not all of my 'Emily's were emotionally abusive among other things)

doesn't mean Debbie isn't being a shitstain, of course, but she's not being a shitstain for no reason. this comic has good characterization; i doubt any character is ever going to be a flat "FOR TEH EVULZ" villain type, honestly.

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November 3rd, 2015, 2:14 pm

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@yeah: Well, except Quinton maybe.

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November 2nd, 2015, 5:51 pm

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In all my years attending multiple schools, both in the US and one in Germany, and from what I've heard about my brother's schools, I've never even heard of a gender-segregated PE class before. It was always co-ed, even during my brother's brief stint at a Christian academy. The only separation was in the locker rooms, and that's just common sense.

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