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February 25th, 2016, 5:24 pm

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Poor Ky could probably really use a hug. Maybe not from Drew though...

Although he did stop to explain to Drew how that made him feel. He could've kept walking, ignoring Drew's every word, but he stopped. But why? Is he letting Drew off easy? Did he just want to say his piece before leaving entirely? There's a lot of gray here. What do you think? And in Ky's position, do you think you'd bother trying to talk, or just keep walking?

Next week, we'll be cutting to another scene (sorry), but we will be checking in with these two one more time before the chapter ends. By the way, for those of you keeping track, we're about forty pages into this chapter so far. And we're only a little more than half done. Honestly, I had half a mind to classify the next page as a brand new chapter as it has sort of a different feel (and there are fewer scene jumps coming up). However, it still focuses on the same themes in the same setting, so why waste a day with a new chapter cover? So what if it ends up being a 60-70 page chapter? Let's just keep it going. XD


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February 25th, 2016, 5:32 pm

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Aww, poor Ky :(

(last panel, third balloon: "me" -> "I"

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February 25th, 2016, 7:49 pm

Guest

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@Kimiko_0: No, that's a perfectly acceptable formulation in USAian English. More common in some areas than others - like New Orleans (particularly Nint' Wahd/Yat), where when going to the store they say they're going to "make groceries".

(I had to read it three times before i got what you were saying.)

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February 25th, 2016, 11:37 pm

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@Kimiko_0: Also, even if it's not proper grammar, real people use improper grammar all the time, so it's totally legit for Ky to say that even if it's not technically "proper".

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February 25th, 2016, 11:58 pm

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@Kimiko_0:

I overlooked that while writing it, so that's admittedly on me. But I never imagined Ky really speaking "proper" English, so I'm fine leaving it as is. I actually even told my editor for the books that certain common flubs (like saying "me an ____" instead of "____ and I") could be overlooked with Ky's dialogue.

Thank you though. I do appreciate grammatical/spelling mistakes being brought to my attention, but in this case, I'm not too worried about it. ^_^

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February 26th, 2016, 7:18 am

AMM (Guest)

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@Kimiko_0:

"I" vs. "me":

There's an elided word there which affects this.

If the elided word is "that", then you'd have:

"... people would rather [that] *I* be depressed ..."

then you're right. But if the elided word is "have", then:

"... people would rather [have] *me* be depressed ..."

(what, you mean grammar discussions _aren't_ the point of this comic??)

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February 26th, 2016, 2:32 pm

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@AMM: Oh, you're right. I hadn't even thought of that. It makes perfect sense. Thanks for your comment ^_^

But, "that" is nearly always elidible in English, but "have" isn't.

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February 25th, 2016, 6:23 pm

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Drew looks so horribly guilt ridden here... Good.

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February 25th, 2016, 6:55 pm

MediocreArts

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I still ship it.

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February 25th, 2016, 7:57 pm

Anna Rei

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@LittleLynn84: I think I need hug to after that. That is just how I used to be. All angry all the time and mostly at myself. Being fluid in gender is very hard to be. I would never wish it on my worst enemy. :(

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February 25th, 2016, 8:27 pm

Snowwater

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Well I think Ky might not forgive him straight away.. I don't think I would if I were him. Maybe give it some time? I still ship them, but I think that Drew needs to work harder to try to understand Ky and make the relationship work. I do think he is trying though, for a person who was raised in such a closed environment like their school, learning about different gender identities is probably really confusing.

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February 25th, 2016, 8:36 pm

Villiage Idiot (Guest)

On the other (sexuality) hand

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I know this will be unpopular, however, for Drew to not have said anything risks him being outed, rightly or wrongly as bi/gay. Which is why he panicked. There is no good path out of that random encounter in this hetro-normative gender presentation obsessed Abrahamic culture.

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February 25th, 2016, 11:32 pm

Grenartia

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@Villiage Idiot:

Not necessarily. As far as they were concerned, Drew and Ky were just talking. That's not risking being outed. If they were kissing, sure, or even holding hands, Drew might've been at risk. But simply talking? Hardly, unless they were eavesdropping, and that wasn't really happening.

Also, even if Drew was at risk of being outed, the risk to Ky is greater than the risk to him.

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February 25th, 2016, 11:59 pm

Quirk (Guest)

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@Grenartia: They were holding hands! Drew snatched his away when he heard "Yo, Drew".

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February 26th, 2016, 1:25 am

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@Quirk: Making it a bit more complex, though Drew was still in the wrong. Honestly, he was putting his social identity above the safety of Ky, even if he didn't realize it.

Though mostly, he was just kinda stupid, and it really hurt Ky. Drew didn't even gain anything from it. At the very least, this was definitely a learning experience for him - I don't think he'll do something like this again quickly.

But whether his friendship with Ky will survive... I hope Drew is better with apologies than any other kind of speaking ^_^;

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February 26th, 2016, 3:18 am

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@Maplestrip: It seems like Ky's more hurt about the fact Drew considers him a girl who crossdress sometime than the fact he outed him. He didn't even say the truth when outing him but that is because he doesn't fully understand the situation which makes it more painfull for Ky.

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February 26th, 2016, 12:21 pm

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@Guest: I... I hadn't even considered that aspect of it.

I guess you're right.

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February 26th, 2016, 2:32 pm

Quirk (Guest)

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@Maplestrip: Oh yeah, I 100% agree with your analysis. But while I have opinions on non-consensual outing it's not a topic I like to discuss, was just clarifying a detail.

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February 25th, 2016, 10:07 pm

castlemaid

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Ky obviously likes Drew, and seemingly wants to give him a chance, seeing as both Drew and Ky dont fully understand each other. I hope Ky gives him a chance at redemption, and I hope drew can redeem himself

I LOVE THIS COMIC SOOOOO MUCH

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February 26th, 2016, 1:45 am

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And Ky answered my question from the previous page ...

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February 26th, 2016, 3:11 am

Jaebired (Guest)

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I think the problem with their relationship here is that Ky doesn't fully realise that "forgiving" Drew and extending it will mean accepting Drew's immaturity.

Drew acted out of pure fear and there was no malice in his handling of the situation. But it was still cruel and wrong and selfish. And yes, he needs to grow up but that isn't something that will happen overnight; I don't think he'll make this mistake again, but he'll make others. And I'd rather see them stop being friends for a few chapters than things ending on a much sourer note.

Ideally, Drew could mature fast enough that the split isn't necessary but you can't expect Ky to sit down and analyse his behaviour while reeling with shock and hurt.

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February 26th, 2016, 3:43 am

Dzaka (Guest)

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:gives a nod of solidarity with ky.: know how you feel friend

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February 26th, 2016, 6:06 am

AzraelRhincon

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18 hours... I read the entirety of this comic in just 18 hours... I'm a little worried of myself...

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February 26th, 2016, 8:06 am

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@AzraelRhincon: Welcome to the ranks of the Rain obsessed.

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February 26th, 2016, 1:15 pm

AzraelRhincon

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@Barn0wl: Well, thank you, I guess!

Although I'm not obsessed, I swaer! I can stop any time!
>.>
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February 26th, 2016, 9:53 am

k_dragon (Guest)

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Chill Ky, I get it, I experience stuff like that too, but it was an accident, and it won't happen again...

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February 26th, 2016, 10:46 am

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@k_dragon: You don't know that it won't. And Ky doesn't even need to "chill". Drew just outed Ky without his permission to two people he probably doesn't even know the names of. That's NOT OK. And it's REALLY not OK that Drew did it to save his own little "reputation" and threw Ky under the bus. Please tell me how you know for certain that Drew won't do this to Ky again? Or to anyone else? Ky doesn't have to "chill". He was outed, unwillingly, thrown under the bus. By someone he gave his trust to. Don't tell Ky to "chill" as if he's overreacting. He's the victim here, Drew is not a victim at all, and victim blaming is not cool.

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February 26th, 2016, 12:02 pm

k_dragon (Guest)

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@TallMist: I'm not saying Ky should just let it go and be all happy diddly like nothing ever happened, but the last panel *really* read like a final condemnation. I'm just saying, Drew doesn't have to be cut off permanently.

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February 27th, 2016, 4:43 am

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@k_dragon: No, he doesn't have to be. But if Ky wants to, then he has every right to. I've cut off people permanently for things you could argue isn't as bad as what Drew did because I don't need that kind of toxic crap in my life and if Ky wants to cut off a person for outing him, throwing him under a bus, he doesn't need to "chill".

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February 26th, 2016, 3:26 pm

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Trust

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So many feels lately. Ky is totally justified by the way in her actions.

To me trust is something fragile yet infinite. Its something anyone can receive and give to anyone else at any time. But the moment someone breaks the trust they were given, even working hard to repair it, they may never regain that level of trust again.

Its probably easier for people who are really forgiving. But that's just my thoughts. There will always be slivers of doubts.

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February 26th, 2016, 5:37 pm

RFZ

This is utterly random

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I just realized those two remind me of Maria Ross and Denny Brosh from Fullmetal Alchemist.

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February 27th, 2016, 1:16 am

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I have to agree with the broken trust comments. I could see something like this affecting Ky in future relationships ... certainly in the future of this relationship if it continues. One thing that occurs to me about this is that Drew just blurted out things that Ky had shared in confidence. Things that he had only recently begun sharing with friends. As has already been mentioned; we know that Ky's sister, Heather, has belittled him in much the same way. Ky was just learning to trust others with this very personal aspect of his life.

To have this person that he felt he could trust, deny their new relationship by acting as if it (the relationship) were wrong, as if Ky was some oddity rather than a real person with real feelings. That had to hurt on a very deep level. I could very easily see how Ky would have a great deal of trouble being able to trust others later on because of it.

Going back to the relationship between Jessica and Aiken; I can easily picture some sort of similar incident which severely affected Jessica's ability to trust in a person she might be in a relationship with. You share your deepest feelings only to have them thrown back in your face in some callous and un-feeling manner like this - that is pain that will last a long time.

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February 27th, 2016, 8:44 am

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The Centerville Mall reminds me of the Forest of Arden. It seems like every character in the story runs into every other one whenever any of them goes there. I keep imagining the stage direction "another part of the forest" every time the scene changes.

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