This page is a little personal for me as it's very closely based on the first time I'd ever gone out by myself presenting female (as in, with no wife or friends or anyone I knew with me). The setup was a little different obviously (seeing as I was by myself), but the random kids' dialogue and Rain's reaction are exactly how I remember it. Unprompted and very much in a public place and all.
As heavy as this all is, I tried to throw a little bit of humor in there with Maria's non-sequitur in the first panel (I've been waiting a long time for an opportunity to use that one), as well as Chanel's remark in the last panel. Things have been pretty dramatic in the comic for the last few weeks, so I thought breaking the tension just a little might be welcome.
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Need any help hiding the tattered remnants?
@Fairportfan: I don't think there WILL be any tattered remnants or any remains for that matter
@00Stevo: You mean she's going to... eat them? Well, either that or cast them into a hellish dimension.
@Guest: Maybe she's just scatter them to the wind~
Is it bad that I was almost relieved, since some kids calling her a guy is a lot less uncomfortable to read than Emily having to tell Rain that it's not going to happen? Because that's going to be so painful.
Just so you know, Emily is still listed as "straight" in the Characters list.
Sorry. I just wanted to make sure you knew.
I know she's pansexual, so that's why that's odd...
The Character page also says "All information is intended to be as spoiler-free as possible. If something seems to be inaccurate, it is because the description is based on the earliest information available."
Anyway, the list has been in need of an overhaul for a while for a lot of reasons. It will happen eventually and I'll fix that among other things.
@LittleLynn84: This is why I made the 'LGBTQIA+ pure awesome' image in the Facebook group.
@Nesagsar: Could you, umm, not group asexuals in your community? As supportive as we are of LGBTQI community, we really have as much in common with straight people as we do with (not to sound like an asshole) "you people". Asexual people don't have to deal with discrimination (well, I guess tax cuts for married couples count, kindof) that LGBTQI people (or straight fathers in custody court [but that's neither here nor there]) do, nor are we exactly demonized by "Christians" (I put "Christians" in quotes because if they were to ACTUALLY READ the New Testament [which supersedes the Old Testament, Leviticus included] they'd know that there is [Gospel-wise] nothing wrong with homosexuality and everything wrong with being judgemental). Unless you were referring to Agender people, in which case I will try to remove my foot I shoved straight down my oesophagus.
I strongly disagree.
I know most people just know me for being trans, but I'm also a proud ace girl. I know not everyone would agree with me, but I would rather prefer seeing all marginalized genders and orientations stick together. The moment we segregate is the moment we all lose camaraderie and fall apart. That's my humble opinion (and the reason this comic consists of a group of friends with a wide range of genders and orientations). I believe we should all be working together.
As for asexuals not dealing with discrimination, perhaps you've just been fortunate enough not to see it. Or maybe it's the fact that many people just erase us and choose to tell us we don't exist. Others just think we have a problem because "it isn't normal to not feel sexual attraction." As for religion, if in the case of a sex-repulsed asexual, it becomes an issue of defying god's command to "be fruitful and multiply" (yes, I've actually heard this).
And then there's the fact that some ace folks overlap into other LGBT demographics. Like how Chanel in the comic is homoromantic asexual dating a lesbian; LGBT issues would affect her. Then speaking for myself, being both ace and trans can spark unique issues like people thinking I'm confused or in denial because I'm going to have SRS. After all, "what point is there for anyone who lacks sexual attraction to have a surgery that affects their sex organs? How can this possibly be medically necessary?"
Yes, comparatively, there isn't AS MUCH vocal discrimination against asexual people because it's easier for us to be kind of stealthy about it. But that doesn't mean there isn't opposition. And I'm sorry if this post is a little snippy, but I for one have been victimized worse as an asexual than ever I have as a trans person. So it's a little personal for me.
Please don't assume all asexuals - or all members of any group - have the same feelings and experiences. We're all different, but that doesn't mean we should all be separate.
@LittleLynn84: I only mean to say that we aren't really too bad off comparatively. I know that there is some overlap and that not all asexuals have it great, but I just feel uncomfortable to compare my annoyances to the very serious struggles LGBTQI people face.
I reiterate, you probably just haven't seen the serious struggles. Just because you don't experience it, doesn't mean no one does. Either way, it's not about comparing who has it worse or better. It's about acknowledging that some people do have it rough. And that maybe if we all work together, fewer people will have to struggle in the future.
@LittleLynn84: as another ace girl I can tell you I have had a few issue myself. Alot of people that either find out or I tell I am asexual are confused and just don't understand, no matter how much you explain it to them, as they are used to getting that "zing" or whatever it is they feel when they see someone attractive. It's aggravating to have to explain it and try to justify it to people. In the end most people just shrug it off as you being weird and never actually come to accept it which really annoys me as other sexualities are becoming more accepted. Just thought I'd put across my issues as a cisgender asexual. It must be pretty hard to deal with those telling you that you're confused because of transition. I get the whole "you just haven't met the right person" spiel myself. I think people find lack of attraction so much harder to accept than attraction to the same sex so heartily agree with you on the discrimination we get.
@>_>: "Asexual people don't have to deal with discrimination" maybe you don't, but don't think you speak for everyone asexual. Your ignorance and dismissiveness is staggering.
@Bee: I agree that >_> is more than a little dismissive, buuuut in my experience the LGBTQI community has been either dismissive or outwardly hostile of asexuals. I've been told, to my face, that I am "not part of the the community". Other times members of the community (a good deal of the more activist-y lesbians for some reason) have told me that demisexuality does not exist and that demihetrosexuals are "just stuckup straight people".
@Nesagsar: I was expecting comments but I thought they would be about Puddle. I'm sorry that you feel that way and I can see that your experience doesnt make you feel as though ace need to be part of the community. I think that it may really just be your experience though. Most Ace people that I know (which does not include me, I am tottaly hypersexual all the time) find that their relative small numbers and the habit of being overlooked as a community are definitely oppressive. Remember that being ignored or not having people believe that your group exists are most definitely forms of oppression.
That insensitive little brat...-chases the kids with Maria-
am i the only one who wants to punch everyone who thinks rain is a boy just because she has short hair?
@that guy: Heh. My stepdaughter is a licensed cosmetologist (though not currently working at it), and my younger granddaughter insisted on having her hair cut as short as her mom would do it.
Until she was five (three years ago) and Helen made her a cowboy costume for Halloween ... and after about eight or ten people said "Oh, what a cute little boy!" Natalie decided she wanted her hair longer after all.
You can see her at both ages at http://electronictiger.net/nathair.jpg - Halloween 2014 on the left, October last year (in front of her sister) watching me blow out my birthday candles...
I'm slightly concerned. Or am I the only one who sees a resemblance between the glasses kid and Debbie?
@RFZ: This is how things can go wrong fast. Say the kid is Debbie's brother. He could mention this little encounter at home and, if it was just Rain, no one would be able to identify her based on his description. Throw in Maria, however, who will no doubt leave a hell of an impression on him and... yeah.
@Guest: That's what I fear as well! There's just a little too much resemblance there!
For a second I actually thought it WAS Debbie walking up to Rain...
Hey Random question, What Rain's and her Family's heritage? Because their skin is a lot more 'olive' then everyone else, but then again it could just be my monitor.
@00Stevo: with her last name. she's irish. her tone might just be a tiny bit of black irish peeking through.. black irish were the remains of a group of italian mercs that worked for ireland and scotland against the english in the middle ages
i myself am black celt cause of that same reason though i'm of scots decent
:3 hope that helped
@Dzaka: Though, Flaherty would be her father's name. Bryer would be her mother's family name. Other than an ice cream brand, I can't think what that might be.
Now I want ice cream. :P
@Barn0wl: anglo-saxon germanic. :3 but who knows what all she is.. she could be an american mutt puppy
@LittleLynn84: I usually get are you a boy or a girl form kids a lot well out. Being Intersex and Gender Fluid it happens. As in male mode I got boobs and hips like a girl so I get that a lot and as in female mode I am very big, tall, wide shouldered, with big hands and feet. I can not win no matter what I feel I am at the time.
Poor Rain! I hope we don't have a crying breakdown coming up. But, of course, if/when we do she has Emily there, so that's good. Now go kill that asshat Maria!
@LittleLynn84: I always wonder why trans people care about this. If you don't look girly or boyish enough, why would it be sad? It'd just mean you'd failed the first time, but...well, you know what happens to the kind of people who only try once.(Oh, btw I'm a bit confused about the term transgender, as it essentially means gender transition. Which makes me confused when people who have finished SRS still call themselves trans when they are no longer transitioning.)
@haxorus29: I'm going to try to answer your questions to the best of my abilities. It hurts to be unrecognized as how you identify and be put down. If appearance and gender were not connected so much in culture, it would not matter as much. But that sadly is not the case and if a person does not fit a certain standard, others may mock or threaten them. This is hurtful and can also be damaging to self image. Gendered looks are connected to self image as well bc to fit in well with how we identify we often internally feel that we need to fit those aforementioned standards to accept ourselves.
The trans in transgender means across. So the word transgender basically means "across gender." Currently, as far as I know, transgender can also be seen as an umbrella term for those who identify with genders other than those that they were assigned at birth. This is why even transgender people who have had (though not every transgender person wants or needs it) SRS are still transgender.
@LD: I had long feminine hair for a few months. No one bullied me. Oh, and I'm sorry if I worded that wrongly. I meant to say that if you want to pass so badly and you don't succeed the first time you shouldn't cry and need emotional support for it. You should say 'Hey, what gave me away? Oh, it was x!' and then improve on it until you "pass", and no one gives you any odd looks because of what your wearing (Unless you wear things not usually worn everyday, like victorian era clothing.)
@haxorus29: go back a chapter and see how her her got short again.. she's still broken up by her sister doing that to her and also she's going to an ULTRA conservative catholic ran private school. if she can't pass properly she and her aunt get into ALOT of trouble
@haxorus29: I think it really depends a lot on personal experiences. Rain's personal experience has taught her that accepting, helpful people - who will do things like tell her what doesn't pass for her own sake - are the minority and that most people who learn about her condition will ridicule her for it. This also happened at a time when she feels VERY insecure in her feminity because of her sister rejecting it, and there's the constant threat that if she gets found out she will be expelled and her aunt will be fired for it.
@haxorus29: If you have really wide shoulders and look like you play american football, Many people assume that you must be male. Also, how do you improve on your musculoskeletal system? Yes, hormones help but do not erase all the male markers.
I do realize that there are genetic females that have wide shoulders and are tall. Those women also have to deal with being miss gendered sometimes.
@haxorus29: There is Transsexual and that is apart of the many types of Transgender as a whole. Anything not in what is seen as the normal two genders of male and female can be Transgender. Tomboys could be in it even. They are just more excepted by society now so they often are not seen as being so.
I don't get it. Rain looked completely like a girl...
(Was it the Adam's apple or something? But some women have large Adam's apples... admittedly, I don't know much about the visible physical differences between both genders...).
That this happened sort of in real life is rather disappointing. And rude. To go up to a stranger and make a comment you know will be hurtful before running away laughing is just plain mean.
-Hey Emily, give Rain a hug! She needs it!
@Quinis: My first thought, though it remains to be verified in the comic, was some facial hair coming through - it doesn't show, but there could be a slight "five o'clock shadow". Couple that with her now very short hair, and the little creep guessed right.
Agree, very rude indeed. And hopefully Maria can give them a lesson in how there are consequences to one's actions.
And an Emily hug would be good medicine for Rain I think.
Don't listen to those little brats!!! You are an adorable young Lady Rain!!
I understand that Rain sees herself as "found out." But really, just because some kid says "she's a boy" doesn't mean it's true. I can think of any number of situations where somebody might call a cis girl "a boy."
ETA: Sometimes people do that just to mess with you.
It probably requires more self-confidence than Rain has (like, more than zero), but one approach is to just laugh at him and say, that kid's just saying it to be obnoxious.
Gaslighting is your friend....
Maria seems like the type to start a Riot Grrrl band. Her reaction here is about the same as mine would be. I forget whether or not she wears combat boots, but I feel like she does. If so that definitely settles her as my favorite character. Bothering a punk combat boots girl is a way to get your ass handed to you FAST, like those dumbass kids.
@k_dragon: I'd buy her CD's!
their strides don't look long enough to be running. The two boys, along with Maria, look like they're walking.
I think this is the first time I've seen swearing in this comic :P It's well and truly warranted (although I can think of a few other times it was warranted as well lol)
@Allie: I think another time I saw swearing, Kellen was screaming "You sick fuck!" at Chase when she found out he was a paedophile who got Emily pregnant and then dumped her.
But the word was cut off in the middle so idk if that counts.
Screw those asshats they obviously don't know what a pretty lady looks like.
I miss rain's long hair too ;w;. This comic has so much feels TwT i love it so much.
The 'random' kid notice something for him obvious and verifies it. Something that kids do. Of course it can hurt. Wait until a kid comes up to you and ask for your age and after you answer, it looks to you like you are already dead and says: So old? It doesn't matter if you are still feeling like twenty. It just stated the obvious. And of course you can start to be delusional (like many people do) and start to race against your aging, but it is only a matter of time until everyone laughs behind your back. Are you really interested in that kind of 'politeness'?
And there is the point to use force against the kids to 'think' and 'behave' like they should (as Rain friends believe), instead of accepting the truth as they see it. Isn't that the same hypocrisy of the masses?
I'm cisgender and have had this happen to me just because I prefer short hair like Rain reluctantly has. They asked (or rather shouted) are you a boy or girl. I just told them "does it matter?" and that shut them up. Unfortunatly for trans it does matter obviously. I've never cared much for gender so don't affected by these questions but I feel it may be important to note that all kids are brought up on the concept of boys having short hair and girls having long hair that when they see something that conflicts they ask about it. They aren't meaning any harm (well most) and are actually just questioning your hair length. Probably not the case for all of these incidents though. Some kids just like being mean....
Chances are they (in the comic and in your RL experience) did not even know, they just said it to tease a girl with short hair.
Kids being Kids