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March 1st, 2016, 1:37 pm

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Boy, that changed her tune real quick. XD

While the last page was indeed devastating (and important), I don't want to hang on to that mood right now. Fortunately, Rain is easily distractable. And hey, being called "pretty" by her crush practically negates everything else in the universe at that moment. Emily always knows just the right thing to say.

Although, is she just saying that to cheer her up, or is she speaking from the heart because that's absolutely how she feels. However she meant it though, it's probably clear from that last panel how Rain interpreted it (and how Maria and Chanel interpreted it, for that matter).


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March 1st, 2016, 2:12 pm

Snow Lilly

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She said the secret phrase!!!

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March 1st, 2016, 2:27 pm

Arcanist Lupus (Guest)

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Now all we need to complete the emotional rollercoaster is for Allison to walk in on them!

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March 1st, 2016, 3:27 pm

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Emily has kind of an "oops, me and my big mouth.." look in the last panel. Question now is does she feel that way because she wasn't ready to voice her own feelings yet, or because she didn't want to feed Rain's feelings?

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March 1st, 2016, 9:08 pm

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Possible controversial question

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@LittleLynn84: What do you think gender dysphoria is? Do you think its normal, or do you think it's a mental disorder? (I mean mental disorder as in things like autism, adhd/add, ocd, anxiety etc. Personally, I side with the mental disorder side because I'm pretty damn sure something that makes you feel as if you aren't in the right body to such an extreme you would be willing to kill yourself doesn't deserve the title of "normal".

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March 1st, 2016, 9:57 pm

LunarJasmine

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@haxorus29: there's no such thing as "normal" however it's not a mental illness either. it's a physiological difference, it can be stated that it's a form of intersex, and a mistiming on the womb, we are just the same, our minds never matched how we viewed our bodies, we acknowledge it and seek to correct it.

Look at it like this, you live your whole life with an iron mask on, and you wear a suit of armor with spikes on the inside, so that it cuts and hurts you, it's a slow torture that can drive people to madness, we're conditioned to defend our mind against it but it can get to be too much for people and they're unable to get the help they need, so they feel they have little choice but to take their life, thus ending their suffering and torture.

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March 1st, 2016, 10:20 pm

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@LunarJasmine: I mean "normal" by the fact the majority of the population is not transgender. And gender dysphoria possibly happens because something fucked up and made your brain recognize itself as female/male while your male/female. My point is that this is not something that brings happiness to people. If Rain had been born just normal Ryan, I'm pretty sure he would have lived a better life. Not as much drama, but still content with life. This "Mental Disorder" has the treatment of use of hormones such as testosterone and the other female one I forgot, and once that's all well and good they then undergo something that hopefully ends the persons gender dysphoria for good, that is the SRS.

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March 2nd, 2016, 12:06 am

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@haxorus29:

Your definition of "normal" is flawed and inaccurate. Being part of the majority does NOT equate to being normal. It is more "common" to be cisgender, but that is NOT synonymous with "normalcy".

And how can you be so sure that a cis Ryan would've been happier? Even in that hypothetical scenario - assuming that cis Ryan is the exact same person, except male - Ryan's mother still dies when he's 12, shortly after his father (who's still a dick) abandons them. His best friend still moves away to another town around the same time. His siblings are still distant during his early childhood because of their age gap. Even his relationship with Fara might not be as close because (small Chapter A spoiler), it was Rain's gender identity that helped them connect early on. If cis Ryan doesn't need to come out, he no longer needs to confide anything in Fara, and probably just grows even more distant and awkward.

For the record, the same thing could probably be said of a hypothetical cis Rain. While Rain as we know her has faced a lot of hardship due to being trans, there are a lot of good points too. Take Vincent approving her to start transition for example. This is a huge breakthrough that brought her a lot of joy, but there's not really an equivalent in her cis scenario. Even with all the loss from her parents, if she wasn't seeking transition, how can we be sure she'd want therapy? Or have as good a therapist as Vincent (because she probably wouldn't have met Jessica to connect her to him if she was cis). Along those lines, Aiken would still probably be a transphobe if he didn't need to change for the sake of his family.

It's all purely "what if", but there's no way of actually knowing if cis Ryan or cis Rain would be happier than trans Rain because there's no point of comparison. A cis version doesn't exist. The reality is that Rain as we know her might be MORE mentally stable because she has a focus; an actual purpose that drives her forward and distracts her from the loss she's suffered at a very young age. We don't and can't know for sure. I'm not saying that trans people have it better, but nor am I saying they have it worse. We're just all human, and we all have boons and flaws.

In the end, I reject the idea of transness being a mental disorder. As has been said, there are numerous studies and papers regarding this that you can and SHOULD look up if you want to know. But for the record, not all trans people suffer dysphoria, and not all trans people seek hormones/surgery. Neither are all trans people unhappy, just like not all cis people are happy or well-adjusted.

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March 2nd, 2016, 4:19 am

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@haxorus29: There as been proven there is different wiring in the brain for male and female and some times hormones in the mothers whom are given off at the wrong times and amounts as the fetus grows causing it. The brain get the wrong signals to be made male or female in the brain. A child will be born male with a female wiring in there brain or the other way. Genetics only have small part to play in gender. And even secondary gender characteristics can be off at puberty like they were for me as I was born a XX male and I got boobs and hips and became mentally female even know I was born male. Genetics are mostly like a guide line not a obsolete. Some times they can be miss read do to genetic damage environment, stress, and drugs used by mother before birth or a hormone imbalance in her. They have even found gay people have some of both genders wiring mixed that causes them to be gay. The body plan in there mind tells them it is right unlike Transsexuals but the sexual desires are for the same sex. The difference in transgender and gay is they wish to change there body to fix there mental identity in the mind set by things beyond our control. But gay people do not. Transgender and gay is not a mental illness but a problem caused by miss matched body and mind. And that can bring about problems that seem like mental illness and death. Not suicide but more of mental self mercy killing. I can say it is very unbearable. If you woke up one day the opposite sex you would feel the same way if you are transsexual all the sudden. It is not a choice but more a set instinct that can not be broken or over ruled by being force taught it. Once it sets in it destroys you over time little by little every day tell you do some thing about it or bad things and death happens. I am just lucky I do not go thru it all the time as I am Gender Fluid I have come to believe now. But at times I do not let myself just be female when I feel I need to it as gotten so bad I nearly did stupid things that almost ended my life to many times. It is more like a set mental programming is wrong causing a computer cash in your brain. Cause sensory input of you body is wrong to you. You can not be loved or excepted as you are. That would destroy anyone.

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March 2nd, 2016, 6:12 am

Dzaka (Guest)

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@haxorus29: normal is relative.. what's normal for you. isn't normal for anyone else

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March 2nd, 2016, 4:00 am

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@LunarJasmine: Pretty much you nailed it there. :P

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March 1st, 2016, 11:01 pm

Pacce (Guest)

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@haxorus29:
Short answer. No, it is not a mental disorder according to mental health professionals or medical science. Feel free to google any other questions you might have about gender dysphoria as there are literally thousands of articles on the subject.

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March 2nd, 2016, 10:43 am

Don Edwards (Guest)

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@haxorus29: As for suicides, the evidence suggests that the majority of transgender suicides are not due to dysphoria per se - instead they are due to rejection and abuse, particularly but not exclusively by family.

Imagine growing up being told that the way you feel about yourself is stupid, incorrect, and evil. Imagine being "in a phase, you'll grow out of it" for twenty-plus years and people who are supposed to care about you still won't admit it's real. Imagine being treated as less than a real man AND less than a real woman - even less than a real human.

It all happens. And worse.

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March 3rd, 2016, 12:35 am

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@haxorus29: In recent studies, it has been documented that trans and cisgender people's brains are anatomically different. Trans women have a hypothalamus that is identical to a cis woman's and vice versa for a trans men. Please note, the hypothalamus is a section of the brain responsible for autonomic processes such as the release of neurohormones, body temperature, hunger, sleep, and the circadian rhythm. Brains do in fact have a sex that is separate from anatomic sex (chromosomes, sexual and secondary characteristic, and hormones).

There is research out there that proves it's not just all in the head, but rather IS your head. A person's gender isn't preferred, it's part of their connectome, which is the neurological make-up of a person the same way a genome is a person's genetic make-up.

Isn't science fun?

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March 1st, 2016, 9:15 pm

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high, just wanted to say that I love this comic, the pacing is excellent, as is the flow, the characters are well developed and thought out, the dialogue is quite eloquent and yet in character for all of the characters, and the positions of the characters, the coloring, and the emotions and expressions of the characters are all quite well thought out in advance, thank you very much for making this comic, as a non0binary tran person, I feel a deep amount of pride and honour, knowing there is a lgbtqia comic like this; of this high a caliber.

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March 1st, 2016, 11:04 pm

Pansexualangel (Guest)

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Rain you have missed your chance... Withdrawl for now.. We will restart the mission in 0900 hours...

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March 2nd, 2016, 7:03 am

Darekun (Guest)

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Uh oh, that look on Emily's face in the last panel…

Rain's reaction is so cute :J Even if Maria and Chanel teamed up to say "as lesbians, we think you're one of the prettiest girls we know", they wouldn't have the same impact :3

Emily's reaction to Rain's reaction, though… That's awfully strong to just be "but I'm not ready to turn that into a relationship". Looks like that ship may sink as soon as it gets into the water >_<

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March 2nd, 2016, 9:40 am

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OMG THIS IS SO SAD BUT IT'S SO HAPPY AT THE SAME TIME AND OH MY GOD @LittleLynn84 WHY MUST YOU TOY WITH MY EMOTIONS IN THIS WAY AWWWWW RAIN IS SO ADORABLE

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March 2nd, 2016, 3:28 pm

Channler Ryane (Guest)

...Thank you

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Ummm.. hi. im sort of new ( and obsessed ((i finished, to this point, in 3 weeks )). i really just want to thank you. i was born a girl and lived in a very strict christian home and so i wasnt allowed really to express how i feel and through a tun or research ( which helped lead me to you) i descoverd the name for what i am ( genderfluid) found support rooms and have gotten the help and support ive needed.
so yes
thankyou,
Channler Ryane
(weird me and rain share a name huh? well sort of..whatever im rambaling! :) )

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March 3rd, 2016, 6:48 am

rpoti (Guest)

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you keep saying things about wanting to lighten the mood and yet I can only see the drama getting more and more conflicted and heartbreaking ;)

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March 3rd, 2016, 12:34 pm

cathyfan (Guest)

so it begins to look like

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emily sees rain as a sister which probably means rain's desire to be a mommy will be taking a different route but being auntie rain could be interesting.

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March 4th, 2016, 1:46 pm

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The discussion sparked by Haxorus29's question is part of what makes this such a great comic. A big part of that, Jocelyn, is your own openness about yourself.

Of course, your talent as a writer and artist is the biggest reason that I was drawn to the comic in the first place.

I just wanted to say that before I went on to the next page ...

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