Ridiculously early post to hopefully dissuade any further Chapter A spoilers from floating around.
The dialogue in the first two panels of the second page here is pulled from the bonus chapter of Volume 1. The other flashback panels following it however, are new. Rain's explanation was never shown in the book. Instead, there was a cut away to her explaining to Fara that she just told Allison the truth (that "it just kinda came out"), all the while, Rain had an impressive hand print on her left cheek. So book buyers knew that Allison knew - and that she reacted badly when told - but this is the first time anyone's hearing exactly what was said and are learning how Allison felt about the whole thing directly. This means everybody should be on the same page now (although there are a few other little secrets exclusive to the bonus chapter, you all know the most important thing now). As I've said before, nothing essential to the plot will remain exclusive to the bonus chapters.
So, while I obviously can't stop anyone, I would really, really appreciate it if people didn't spoil the bonus chapters. Just trust that there's a method to my madness. ;P
And although this is the first time non-book buyers are learning this in canon, I've actually hinted at this before in at least one particular page blurb. There's really no one else it could've been.
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Well, we know Rain can, in fact, "be with a girl" so... Love triangle?
@Vee: Yeah I do not see any reason why not. A lot of Trans-women do that after they get there things done to be a women in full as possible. I am still very attracted to females but it seems I am also jealous of them like a female would be of another. Most my attraction really I find is I was attracted to being one very strongly. And I got that at first mixed up with wanting so be one. But I still feel I am like a Bisexual cause of it. They did a study not long ago with findings that all females are really bisexual and desire men mostly to have child the strongest and to be the opposite of but other females some times or males that are female inside do slip into being in a sexual relationship some times with them. There sexuality is much more flexible then males appear to be. I grew up thinking I was just male at first so I do not fear being attracted to females but there is a mental block that keeps me form doing so at times like a female. I would of rather just been a male as it is easier in some ways but it never was for me. :P
In regards to the study they did...I remember hearing that in that study, they counted sexual arousal as sexual attraction, which any asexual person like myself knows is bonkers. Arousal is a bodily function that is the result of stimuli. That stimuli can range from being touched in a certain spot to seeing someone you're attracted to. Sexual attraction can be, but is not always, the cause of arousal. So that study was funamentally flawed.
(Probably done by a bunch of allo people. Probably straight. Wouldn't shock me.)
Besides, all women can't be bisexual because there are pansexual, asexual, demisexual etc. etc. women all over the globe.
@Lenn: Well I think each as there own view on things. It is up to them to decide I think. I am attracted to the male mind set mostly and not there body and to the female body not there mind set. I think really I am just attracted to transgender people is all like myself. So I guess I am a Transgender that is a Trans-chaser you could say. So really saying I am bisexual is not completely right. It just seems that way. All my relationships end up with females who say they are males mentally but they do not wish to change there bodies. I have not tried being with a MTF yet. That would be interesting to try for me I think. I am used to playing the role of male but I never felt I was or did very good at it. I prefer and always was the female really in my relationships. My experience as been women are much more flexible then men on the gender they can be with. It is more of a mental gender they are looking for then body as males seem to be mostly. I have seen not gay females go out with and have sex with females who are mentally male. They would not with any other females. That is the part I mean by Bisexual. No study is completely right and it was limited to only few aspects of sex and gender. Nothing about arousal and just attraction. I am attracted to females but I am sexually aroused by big upper body male like muscle builds rather it is on a male or female. So really I see it as arousal and a traction are two different things altogether. And one can lead to other over time. So it's hard to say they are not right or they are wrong. I still think it is up the the person to choose what they feel they want to identify as.
@Anna Rei: If sexual arousal at the sight of certain females was the same as being sexually attracted to them, then women would be sexually attracted to water and other inanimate objects. Women are not all bisexual. We can have any sexual preference just like men can. Also, being a woman does not mean you have to be jealous of other women. Jealousy is not a nice emotion and it doesn't help anyone. Maybe you could try to get closer to them so you can understand them better, that can be a good cure for jealousy. Everyone's lives have difficulties, and achievements are usually the result of hard work. If you know what it took for others to get to where they are, you'll probably feel pride or admiration rather than jealousy. At least that's how it works for me.
Oh no! Rainily is in trouble! Quick man the guns! Arm the Canon!! (Seriously though. I'm starting to ship Allison X Rain. I can't decide which I like better...) Jocelyn!!! How could you do this to me?!
Am I the only one around here who doesn't ship Allison x Rain at all?
@k_dragon: i dont ship them ether.
tho, i guess, if im not a shipper anyway then i wouldn't ship them
@k_dragon: Na, I like the whole Rain/Emily vibe. Thought I do think Allison could work with Rudy because While he is Homosexual, he could be something like Demiromantic as well
My...doing make up for a transgirl is like...a really bonding moment. A friend who has completely accept who you are and treat you just like an intimate girl friend...
Allision is a keeper. Welp, we are going to have a serious naval battle between ships now.
...I think I may ship Rallison more than I do Rainily now.
@TallMist: Activate Counter ship maneuvers, the Rainily/Rallison had BEGUN
@castlemaid: RAINILY SHALL SINK! *Arms the cannons*
@TallMist: *sips tea* Indubitably
That is so cute and I love how Allison seems ok and even wanting to help Rain with her makeup.
I still ship Rainly fully and still think allison would be better as a sisterly type.
On a slightly different note, if Allison is not the sisterly/supportive type, I am wondering how she would react to learning of Rain's feelings for Emily. Love is powerful and dangerous, some feelings never fade. So would she become jealous or depressed because of still having feelings for Rain or would she still be ok in the end.
@otakuchris: I ship them all. Rain seems to have a very good harem going on here. Why not take them all. :P
@Anna Rei: I'd have to vote this way too!
@LittleLynn84: i am cat herder who failed to keep cat fully bagged(am now going to give self-imposed timeout)
I like the idea of AllisonxRain. On the other hand... while we know she is still into Ryan, that doesn't necessarily mean she'll be into Rain too. Bet we find out soon though.
(I feel as though I don't have anything to comment other than vague emotions)
i hope this turns into cute poly lesbians in a mutual triangle together :D
Cue Emily walking in on them and contrary to her own expectations feeling jelly.
Elsewhere, a storm is brewing.
This'll end well...
Excuse me as I board this ship
@Haldo: Stop! It's a Trap!
@K_DRAGON: No, you are not. I'm not a shipper at all and have never shipped something in my life
As far as confidence boosters go, this is about the biggest one from Allison possible. While Emily's comment about Rain being pretty cheered her up somewhat, it was mostly a distraction from her terrible feelings.
...Yet now, out of the blue, just meeting her like this for the first time, Allison not only is instantly supportive, but also reinforces everything Emily said: Rain's pretty, doesn't look like a boy at all, and is eager to help.
...Still a Rainily shipper, though.
I'm polyamorous myself, so I can't help but project that a bit. Gavin/Allison/Rain/Emily, please and thank you :p
Seriously though, they would all be so cute together.
@Victoria: I have trouble with poly ships because IMHO every subset within the ship has to work emotionally at an equivalent-to-marriage level. (Working sexually is optional.)
Gavin/Emily just doesn't click for me. Which means, neither does any poly that includes both of them.
Actually, that's not quite true!
Not the whole clicking thing, because I mean everyone's got their own opinions on ships and who they think click and I think that's great, honestly.
BUT. Anyway. What I'm saying isn't quite true is the whole thing about even if those two don't click. That doesn't mean any poly ship including both of them wouldn't / couldn't necessarily happen! There are different kinds of poly relationships, contrary to most peoples thoughts about it.
There's more than one dynamic to it. Yes, the most popularly know is that everyone in the relationship is involved with each other somehow. But, again, that's not always the case! There's different versions of poly relationships. Poly relationships most definitely depend on communication and agreements and that everyone in the relationship actually knows what is going on.
So, as long as everyone knows what's going on and agrees with and is okay with what is going on in the relationship, and there's like. No hidden feelings about it / everyone discusses how they feel about things. Multiple things can happen!
With three people, there can be stuff like a poly triangle, which most people are familiar with, but there's also the poly-v. Two people are involved with another person, but those two people involved with that other person are not exactly involved / interested in each other, but they ALL know what is going on in the relationship and are completely fine with it!
On the other hand, like how this could go, there's the whole 4-people thing. That can go different directions! Again, everyone can be involved with each other, or it can be stuff like. A Z-shape, like. Let's number the 4 people. #1 is involved with #2. #2 is involved with both #1 and #3. #3 is involved with both #2 and #4. #4 is only involve with #3. Only certain people are involved with each other, not everyone almost all at once, but everyone is most certainly aware of everything going on! And there's the case with that where #1 and #4 are also involved with each other, but not necessarily everyone is sort of connected, in the case.
And of course, it can be way more complicated depending on the number of people, and can turn into a sort of poly-web relationship.
It's a really complicated web, sometimes! Poly relationships can range from something simple to something complicated, depending on who all is involved, but the key factor is that everyone knows what's going on in the relationship, who is all involved with who in the relationship, and is okay with what is going on with everyone.
Sorry this is so long, but! Coming from someone who has dealt with poly relationships and also done research as well as having friends who are in poly relationships (I have all kinds of experience with poly relationships, really), I felt the need to share!
@Don Edwards: metamours (people with mutual partners) don't have to also be each other's partners, although that often does become the case
"Elsewhere, a storm is brewing."
A "storm", you say?
"all along the watchtower
princes kept the view
while all the women came and went
their foot-servants too
outside in the cold distance
a wild cat did growl
two riders were approaching
the wind began to howl"
@Fairportfan: Skyrim on the mind:
And the Scrolls have foretold, of black wings in the cold,
That when brothers wage war come unfurled!
Alduin, Bane of Kings, ancient shadow unbound,
With a hunger to swallow the world!
-Song of the Dragonborn
I'm just waiting for Allison to start thinking about her conversation with Gavin and Ruby.
Allison: "You're living as a girl, but Ruby said that you two dated. So does that mean that she's gay?"
Rain: "er... yes?"
@Arcanist Lupus: Oh dear, I forgot about that
@LittleLynn84: One thing is this may of help as much as it hurt as I plan to buy the books soon. I was going to this month but I had to many other things I needed more badly I been doing with out. And I would not have given that out.
Missed opportunity for Ruby to run in and say "dude, she's a lesbian" again.
@Nesagsar: Don't worry, odds are good it'll be in an end-of-chapter Rain Delay. :P
@Flipz: Maybe there will also be one for the adventures of Ryan
Well, I had exactly 3 thoughts about this page:
1: Wow, I'm glad they're getting along well. I was worried for a minute, but I'm glad they're still friends
2: Wait, is she going to be Rain love interest #34?! No! No no no no NO! I was just getting comfortable with Rain/Emily! And I like them both! DON'T MAKE ME CHOOSE!!!! TT~TT
3: Wow, I really like Allison's color scheme. Cool design, too.
With all the 'shipping drama going on in the comments, there's one really fantastic thing that doesn't get mentioned all that often.
How many people know about Rain? I count 5 fellow students plus Brother Arthur, and at least two from the neighborhood (Ky and Jessica -- don't know about Heather), plus her brother and sister and of course Fara, and now Allison.
And so far, all except Kellen have been really, fantastically supportive. "Roe-mance" is all very well and good, but people who will go the extra miles for you are rare. Fara changed jobs and gave up dating to support Rain (and then ditched a really nice guy because he wouldn't accept her. "Love me, love my niece.") Emily was more of a sister than Rain's actual sister. Etc.
How many trans people have that? Jessica's line about how "Aiken was par for the course" sticks in my mind.
@AMM: I see what you mean. Rain did go through some awful experiences, but she's also very lucky to have someone like Fara. Not many people (neither cis nor trans) will find someone who will change their own lives for them like that. Although I do hope that Fara can finally start dating again (Vincent, maybe?), now that things are looking better for Rain.
I have noticed some females are not gay but are attracted to the personality not what gender they are. It is longer and hard for them to get to sex. But they can over look these things for someone else needs they love. These two remind me of that. I had a few girl friends like that though I never identified as being the male in the relationship. They were usually tomboys and much like me mentally. But they loved me for the fact I did not judge them like most for not being what society thinks is right for a female to be. And they did not judge me the same. Only thing I had problems with was them touching my boobs. I was partly male and female intersex. I think that was some thing just I did not feel right with a female doing so. I wanted that sort of thing as a female with a male I now think is why. I to did the same though my desire was for to be a female with a male I gave them the same give in how relationships work to.
@Anna Rei: you're thinking pansexual
that's what pansexual is, where you are attracted by personality regardless of gender
Yeah I guess it could be called that. I just never tell now heard much or thought there was really such a thing. But I have seen those who are not and other wise would not. Only with other male tell they felt they could with that one person only. Not really pansexual at all I can see.