For That Matter

posted June 7th, 2016, 7:38 pm


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June 7th, 2016, 7:45 pm

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Did... did people really think Chanel would say something transphobic? O_o I figure that must've been faulty wording on my part, but I really hoped that could be avoided. Anyway, I tweaked the dialogue a bit here to make sure it's clear that that wasn't the case, and that Rain didn't see it that way.

But the part I really want to focus on here is the last three panels. Last week, there was a page where Rain touched Emily's belly and cried. Technically speaking, there were definitely a lot of ways to interpret what she was feeling. This might give a little more insight into how she's feeling. Some might say that's an irrational thing for her to think. After all, if Rain helps raise Emily's child by her side, then yes, I would agree that Rain is the other mom. But dysphoria is hardly ever rational...

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June 7th, 2016, 8:35 pm

Koko (Guest)

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As I approach my mid-twenties I can feel my maternal instincts starting to kick in. I've always tried hard to convince myself I didn't like children anyway, and it has mostly been true so far, but time changes things. I knew the days would come when all of my peers start raising kids without me, but I'm not sure how I'll cope with the envy... Adoption may work somewhat, and I'd also be cleaning up the mistakes of others by taking on their responsibilities, but it certainly wouldn't be the same.

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June 7th, 2016, 11:04 pm

Snow Lilly

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*Hugs Rain* Many of us know this struggle.

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June 7th, 2016, 11:38 pm

J.A. (Guest)

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From the time I was a small child, I've always thought I was going to be an Auntie. Just into my thirties and that's proven to be true. I'm not opposed to the idea of being a mother, biological or otherwise, and I know I would love and do anything for a child if I did have one, it's just not something I've actively pursued.

On the other hand, if you've ever seen B.D. Wong's 'It Gets Better' video on youtube, he seems very maternal to me. He's a cis-gender man who just happens to be gay, but the vibe I get from his video is more maternal than paternal without me thinking of him as being in any way female.

Equating this to fluidity and not to being trans, it seems like the idea of maternal and paternal has more to do than the person than said person's gender.

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June 8th, 2016, 12:42 am

Widdlemow (Guest)

Well, honestly.... yes.

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To someone who know the story and characters: It sure wouldn't make sense of Chanel asked something like that to Rain (let alone say something so transphobic).

But to someone who doesn't know anything except that Rain is transgender, yes, it looks like Chanel is questioning if Rain is the "father" to Emily's child. It was how the speech bubbles cut off, and how Rain had a surprised look, and Chanel was just stumbling with her words and thoughts. It really looked like a "Wait, so is it Rain? How could have Emily gotten pregnant? " sort of thing... which... is 100% out of Chanel's character so it doesn't make sense if you know the story/characters.

Even I had to re-read the page, and I've been reading since day 1.

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June 8th, 2016, 7:24 am

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I feel Rain's pain since my brother has his child )is about a year and a half now) I've been getting serious baby fever. Unfortunately it hurts me to know that I can never father one myself and I know that I couldn't stand getting pregnant.I know there are other ways to have a child but that fact always is on the back of my mind. Wow you really knowhow to capture these difficult emotions well!

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June 8th, 2016, 8:15 am

Asche (Guest)

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I'm not understanding why imagining that Rain might be the father is _transphobic_.

Plenty of trans men (intentionally) become pregnant and bear children, while still identifying as men.

And it's rather common for trans women to save sperm in case they later want genetically-related children. (Not to mention non-op transwomen who retain the option of conceiving children in the more traditional way.)

I agree that, given what we know about Rain's relationship to her body, to say it to _her_ would be pretty insensitive.

But to call it _transphobic_, i.e., inherently invalidating of trans people's identities, IMHO invalidates the identities and experiences of trans people whose relation to their bodies doesn't follow the Orthodox Trans Model.

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June 8th, 2016, 12:39 pm

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@Asche: I think it's more that the gendered term of 'father' would imply that Rain is male, and would therefore be misgendering her (although not really transphobic). If Chanel was implying that Rain was the person who impregnated Emily then she probably would have used a gender-neutral term like 'parent'.

However, it is transphobic to assume that a male impregnated Emily — Chanel is still learning, though, and more subtle transphobic language usually isn't picked up by new trans allies early on unless they're told.

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June 9th, 2016, 5:51 pm

Keiya (Guest)

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@echoes-of-reason: "Father" is also a verb, and that usage would be accurate. She *would* be the one with the Y-chromosome and the sperm. Really, there's not good gender-neutral words for reproductive roles... somewhat understandably, really. When over 90% of Xs are Y, X will start to imply Y to most people.

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June 8th, 2016, 1:40 pm

k_dragon (Guest)

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Yep, it's fun like that.

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June 8th, 2016, 10:58 pm

Breawycker

Hugz!!

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Uggggggggggggggggggggggggggh. I've been dealing with this too! (And i like just turned 18). Before estrogen i was good was kids, but after estrogen my maternal instincts were on. I wasn't a big fan of babies pre-estrogen, but now like dealing with that womb envy.

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June 9th, 2016, 9:35 am

k_dragon (Guest)

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@Breawycker: I don't want kids and don't feel my maternal instinct all that strong a lot of the time, 10 months on the stuff, STILL get same envy, hard sometimes.

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June 9th, 2016, 7:41 am

Steph (Guest)

I totally get that...

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I hear cis-women complaining about their periods and all the disadvantages of pregnancy, etc, ad infinitum.

Every time I've heard that, my inner voice is saying... ME! ME! I'd do that in a picosecond!

Yeah, getting mammograms kind of sucks, but I'd do about anything to have all of the proper bits and it sucks that it'll never happen.

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June 9th, 2016, 11:17 am

actuallyalys (Guest)

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@Steph: Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but trans women still need to get mammograms once they're older and have been on hormones for a while.

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June 9th, 2016, 11:27 am

Steph (Guest)

Actually...

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I suppose that wasn't very clear..

Mammograms are something I've heard complaints about.

I don't mind them that much because it's nice to have breasts to take care of.

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