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I hope Anna isn't jealous of Rain of having these supportive friends to the point where she casually gives out the information of her transgender status, while Anna has never had such support outside her father.
@Guest: It has nothing to do with jealousy. Ana is firmly stealth. Nobody knows except her father, and she wants to keep it that way. Meanwhile, Rain has told a lot of people that she was trans.
Everyone at that table knew Rain was trans, and Rain just showed herself willing to tell some random person she barely knows. To Ana, this all seems like a massive security risk. Every single person who knows the truth could decide on a whim to out Rain, or even do it accidentally. Of course, Rain trusts that they won't do that, but trust isn't really Ana's thing.
Reminder, it's been established that everyone at Rain's table is queer except Gavin. If Rain were to be outed as trans, something that's kind of a novelty at that school, people would start wondering who else could be trans, and the first people they'll look at are the ones sitting at that table. Right now, Ana's asking herself if it's worth the risk.
@Yan Mouson: Makes sense.
@Guest: I don't think I'd totally dismiss jealousy, but for the most part I agree with Yan that it's fear of exposure.
But frankly I'm wondering why Ana is going to a Catholic school with a reputation for strictness. Seems an odd choice for Emily too, when her mother's first reaction to her pregnancy is "go get an abortion now!". (We know why Maria and Rudy are there, and Rain being there is probably a condition of Farah's employment there.)
Of course, the meta answer is that otherwise it'd be hard to work them into the story...
@Don Edwards: Well Emily probably wanted to upkeep her reputation so she stayed at the catholic school, and now wants to stay with Rain, but Ana? No idea.
OMG this is really intense and amazing i honestly anticipate the next comic everyday! this is awesome!!!!!
2 stealth 4 friends
we have come an interesting circle from when Rain was afraid of outing by association with Rudy. I certainly hope they can become friends like rain and rudy did- or- well i dont know it i want that, or maybe i do. Hrmm
I haven't known trans people, but I guess both Rain and Ana have different perpectives of what it means to be transgender. Rain is friendly and trusts her friends, but Ana doesn't want to be outed as trans by being close to other trans people. It sounds a bit selfish that she doesn't want association with other trans people, but self preservation is an instinct difficult to deal with. She probably had a bad experience that made her be distrustful. EDIT: Okay, I have met trans people, but I am naïve when it comes to most topics related to trans people.
Me and a bunch of friends are going as Rain characters for World Book Day!
That's awesome! I'm super honored!
Any chance of pictures? I'd love to see Rain cosplay! ^_^
@LittleLynn84: Ah,dammit. I checked and it is against school policy. So sorry.
Also, I am internally screaming that you replied. I love Rain and all the characters in the small amazing world you have built. This comic has got me through some rough times, and whenever I need a smile, i go to the page with the portal reference.
Thanks again. You're a legend!
I started reading and I thought, "This is it! This is the page!" But then... nope. I hate how despicably amazing this comic is. But she had better come out on Wednesday or I'm starting a witch hunt.
I kind of detest trans people who are so afraid of being outed they don't want to be associated with others.
@Guest: "I kind of detest a world where being outed as trans changes your life so drastically that it's a risk to be associated with others."
..is what you meant to say, right?
No, not really. During my transition I've met far too many somewhat stealth transgender people who refused to be associated with those they considered 'less passable' out of a fear of being outed.
It was incredibly hurtful to not only be disregarded by cisgender bigots, but also by those who should know better.
To me it is the same as a date saying: "I like you but I don't want my family/friends to know"
@Guest: I dunno. That fear you had before starting transition, of being associated even remotely with anything to do with being trans, it's not hard to imagine someone would still have that fear afterwards, perhaps even more so when they've had to work so hard to get where they are. Only they know how precarious their circumstances are. It's not a nice thing to do to other trans folks for sure, but we're all only human.
@Kimiko_0: I certainly hope that's what they mean.
One could suggest that not having a user name on a comment like that is a bit of cowardice.
So long as the shadow of Brandon Teena hangs over trans people, this is not the world i want to live in.
I hope this doesn't end badly
Lol this suddenly feels like a super intense spy movie
@blep: Ana: "You know too much. Now I have to kill you."
Binged the entire comic and now I must wait, serves me right. Heh. Love this comic and love your attitude. It's like the story could be a real thing with real people. The whole comic makes you believe in them and their ideas. It's just incredible.
Rain and Ana have rather different life experiences.
Rain didn't intend to out herself at first. As she mentioned to Emily a while back, most of the people at the table found out by other means -- Rudy when Rain fell the first day, Gavin when he recognized the name, etc. She's become more comfortable because none of the people who've found out has treated her badly. Not even Brother Arthur.
Ana, on the other hand, we know has had to move several times, at least once because a boyfriend physically attacked her. It seemed obvious to me when I read it that she and her father moved because she suffered harrassment or worse for being trans. So_her_ experience is that being found out leads to violence and rejection. Not something that makes you willing to trust.
Hm, someone brought up an interesting point, I *would* like to see why Ana chose this school at some point
But anyway, I see why she would do this. It'd be a shame if she and Rain can't be friends though; I think having another trans girl to confide in would be good for both of them
Honestly, as I move further in my transition I'm feeling a lot more like Ana does in this panel than Rain does. Share with no one. Talk about it with no one. Pretend it's not there so every interaction I have with everyone isn't hindered by being trans =/
@iAmAPerson: The problem with that is the risk of something like what happened to Brandon Teena.
On one hand, I understand Anna's perspective. She is trying her best to survive in a school that would have her miserable at best if her secret got out. She just watched another trans person act very casually about her transition, and it made her own precautions look like a joke.
On the other hand, what she's doing is basically respectability politics in a nutshell. Instead of forming solidarity with others like her, she is avoiding other "undesirables" in the hopes of being able to buy into a privilege that she can only ever attain conditionally.
But like I said...she's also trying to survive...and she has every right to do so, no matter how many feelings she hurts along the way. Odds are stacked against her, and she has to do what she feels safe and healthy doing. It is easy to criticize respectability politics in abstract terms, or in terms of a large movement, but when it involves individuals, it's....well, it's a very different story.
Besides, Ana was attacked by an ex. She should be allowed to avoid that again as best she can.
Frankly, I don't think she has the right to be upset with Rain. Worried? Sure. But it's rain's life, not hers, and if she doesn't want to be outed by association, then the only acceptable action on her part would be to not associate with rain, or her friends, at all. If Ana is about to tell rain to not be open about her transness for other people's sakes, then she's in the wrong.
If Ana decides to no longer associate with them after this, I also hope that Rain will not try to stop her from doing so. I think that would be a wrong as well.
......BUT THEN AGAIN I AM CIS AND I COULD BE VERY WRONG ABOUT ALL OF THIS SO IF I AM LET ME KNOW O_0
I don't think she's trying to avoid 'undesirables' for privilege. For a lot of us, being trans is not a defining characteristic, and not really important to bring up :P Forming solidarity with that in mind would just be weird and forced.
Or maybe I'm just projecting my own feelings. I kinda like that the comic is showing more ways to live with being trans, so I hope Ana doesn't end up just being Rain 2.0! Being stealth is just the most comfortable way for a lot of us to live, and having that ruined by association is a valid fear. It could be life changing.
I agree with the rest of your points -v- Ana can only choose how she reacts herself, even if that means not hanging around Rain. But I can't imagine Rain just wanting to tell everyone around her that she isn't cis, so Ana shouldn't have anything to fear.
@Guest: I concede to all your points.
I'm barely passable (6'4", broad shoulders, etc) and I've caught enough crap from people who don't like trans people, gay people who don't "get it" and everyone else who either tries too hard to be "understanding", but aren't.
I would give my left n.... arm to just blend into the rest of womanhood and just "be".
Yes, I get that we need to be out and proud, but after decades of dealing with negative crap, I just want to be accepted as a woman and not have to worry about who my next attacker will be or have to explain the whole "trans" thing to some well-meaning but clueless person.
If one more person tells me "If you like guys, then why not just be gay?", I. will. scream.
<pant><pant> rant over.
@Steph: Homes, you need a hug.
@Steph: And if, like me, you identified as a lesbian, you'd just get accused of being a cisman with a fetish.
Well there are dangers of being found out, unfortunately. It's rare but being found out could mean being beat up and a broken bone.
Hmmm Ana, maybe her and her father felt that folks in public schools might figure it out, or the problems were all in public schools in the past, so try a private religious school, who would know there right? ;)
If the next page cuts to anyone else I am going to be sooooooo infuriated! I just want her to say the words already! gah!!!!
I've moved to another city and gone stealth at this point and I really understand where Ana is coming from with this.
I always in fear that associating with other trans people is a risky move with the potential to out me which could have catastrophic consequences with things like work.
I don't really participate in many lgbt community activities in real life but I've revealed myself to people I've met online that don't know my real life information just to make sure that I don't get burned.
It sucks but that's the reality of my life.