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March 16th, 2018, 9:16 am

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Wait. What? Can he do that!? It seems a bit overkill and absolutely an overstep of his power, but... I mean, it happened. Instead of worrying about whether or not he can, it might be better to consider that he already did.

Now, before the rioting starts, bear in mind that it doesn't say "the end" at the bottom of the page. It doesn't even say "chapter end". We don't have the full picture here, and there's still a lot of ways this can all go. So let's all just take a moment. Take a deep breath. Take a walk if you need to. And then we can think about what this all really means. For Maria? For Chanel? For any of the the other kids?

What happens now?


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March 16th, 2018, 9:34 am

Kalciphoz (Guest)

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"Look into if you want to waste time" so Quenton thinks violence is perfectly acceptable if done according to proper Christian hatred, but completely unacceptable if done in self defense against that kind of hatred. Unfortunately it is an attitude I have seen before in a supposedly secular school.

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March 24th, 2018, 2:51 pm

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@Kalciphoz: sorry for sparking a full on hate war

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March 16th, 2018, 9:37 am

Minim

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I want to make a coherent response but all I can think is AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Noooooooooooooo!!

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March 16th, 2018, 10:34 am

Minim

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@Minim: Initial response over:

>This is *not* going to go down well in the Strongwell household - in fact, it's possible that as soon as the parents hear of this they will be driving Maria straight to the nearest "gay therapy" camp or whatever they're called. Even if that doesn't happen, not going to school is going to isolate Maria with said parents, and as things are going they will not be allowing her to see her friends any time soon. (and not finishing school will make it harder for her to go to uni etc. which could have got her away from her parents). Maria *does* have a friendship circle willing to fight for her (and Rudy!), though, so depending on the capabilities of that circle it's *possible* she can find shelter elsewhere (and Rudy, because if Maria ran away the parents would double down on him). In fact, Maria is old enough to try and find somewhere to live by herself - she and Rudy could do a Heather and Ky *if* they can find the resources to manage (which might mean staying with friends until they've got an income, which could very well be tricky)

>Good old Brother Arthur, making an attempt to stop Beastly Quenton from expelling Maria here. It doesn't work because Quenton is already set in his mind. And Brother Arthur is right - Maria didn't even hit Todd, she pulled back which shows an honest attempt to control herself, and - crucially - that Maria may well have been defending another which would have made her actions the best thing she could have done in that situation (which is what happened). Quenton is a hypocrite for allowing Todd to perpetuate violence but not even considering lenience in a case against Todd. Quenton is a complete ankle (ankles are lower than the other body parts you *might* describe this kind of tosspot as)

>Chanel looked so happy when getting her measurements out of her locker (before Todd showed up) and it's heartbreaking that that happiness plus every other happy moment she's spent with Maria has culminated in this, with her girlfriend's protection of her leading to said girlfriend getting expelled. And given Chanel's self-esteem she may well blame herself for what happened even though it was in no way her fault. In any case... *wibble*

>And from all this? Todd is learning that he can get away with anything and can be an asshole to anyone. Yeah he gets minor consequences when girls turn him down, but that isn't getting through to him. And I don't expect him to get any real consequences at all in the near future either, but those consequences are what he *needs* in order to grow as a person (and if there are issues behind his behaviour then they need addressing too, but on top of the consequences as opposed to instead of them)

>Final note: Maria's expressions on the second page are spot on.

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March 16th, 2018, 9:42 am

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*casually wants to punch him in the face* Heeeeey come to my school friendo, totally straight people here *is totally gay aka genderfluid, pan, and demi* i protect u

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March 16th, 2018, 9:43 am

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@LittleLynn84:

What happens now?

Ever heard of "The Children's Crusade"? Well, that was a fiasco ... but this one might not be ...

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March 16th, 2018, 9:51 am

Guest

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@CatPerson Newsies?

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March 16th, 2018, 10:35 pm

CatPerson

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@Guest:

Good one!

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March 16th, 2018, 10:01 am

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If I could, I'd reach through my screen and strangle Quentin. I'd make him suffer. He's an absolute asshat and I really, REALLY hope he gets what's coming to him later on.

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March 16th, 2018, 1:54 pm

HopelessSpirit

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@TallMist: You took the words right out of my mouth.

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March 16th, 2018, 10:12 am

Microrapter (Guest)

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Viva la revolution (or maybe the GLAA)!

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March 16th, 2018, 11:17 am

NikuComics

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Can I hit him?

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March 17th, 2018, 1:27 pm

RandomEgg

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@NikuComics: I'll hold him for you

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March 17th, 2018, 2:21 pm

NikuComics

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@RandomEgg: Thank you *Hits the evil man*

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March 17th, 2018, 8:45 pm

RandomEgg

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@NikuComics: I probably shouldn't've done that though... I mean, I just talked about how Christians should be loving a few comments up... woops

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March 18th, 2018, 1:25 am

NikuComics

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Its okay. Life can be quite confusing. ;)

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March 16th, 2018, 11:26 am

TranshumanAr (Guest)

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I hate double standards! How is it that punching gays kids is fine but it isn't okay to punch in self defense when you've a witness?! Many violent kids don't get expelled, but when a victim fights back it's bad?! There's no physical evidence of Maria's misbehavior, and Chanel can testify, so how is it a waste of time?! Father Quenton has proven how evil he is.

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March 16th, 2018, 11:56 am

AbbyTheCat65

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OH MY GOD WHAT A B I T C H

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March 16th, 2018, 1:10 pm

Daisy (Guest)

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Holy shit. I’m at a loss for words. This isn’t going to end well.

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March 16th, 2018, 1:13 pm

zach (Guest)

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if this boi wasnt fictional he'd be in a lot of pain,,,

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March 16th, 2018, 1:16 pm

haylE15 (Guest)

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Can he actually do that ? I mean expelling her just like that ? I thought there was a lot of paper to do and all...
And if he can, is there anything they can do against it ? I mean not just Maria but even the others teachers for example... ?

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March 17th, 2018, 1:28 pm

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@haylE15: Father Quentin is doing something called abusing power, and sadly, it's very very common in this world

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March 16th, 2018, 1:53 pm

Diamondman

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I hope Arthur can help her

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March 16th, 2018, 1:57 pm

Mikko

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i havent't met a priest that was a good person in real life

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March 19th, 2018, 9:37 am

Proud Pagan (Guest)

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@Mikko: I’m sorry for you.
Even if I’m strongly against christendom, most priests that I met were between good and great.
Ok, most of them were Unitarian-Universalists...

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March 16th, 2018, 2:02 pm

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Poll: how do you prefer Quenton to horribly die?

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March 16th, 2018, 2:16 pm

Jocelyn (Not Samara) (Guest)

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i'm gonna make a bet right now...


Father Quenton knew everything and he secretly supports todd.

its like in dougs first movie

except much more painful

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March 19th, 2018, 9:40 am

Proud Pagan (Guest)

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@Jocelyn (Not Samara): Quenton is probably Todd’s father. ("I AM YOUR FATHER")
And he probably raped his mom when she was his student.

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March 16th, 2018, 2:18 pm

Eunacis

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Quentin has a VERY specific axe to grind and I feel that some grown-up drama is heading this school's way.

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March 16th, 2018, 4:10 pm

00Stevo

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Wow, no wonder everyone at the school hates that guy, I'm surprised he hasn't been kicked out by the school board yet l.

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March 19th, 2018, 10:56 am

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@00Stevo: Alas, it's essentially a private school, run by the church. The state, county or municipal school boards would have very little say in the governance of said school.

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March 16th, 2018, 4:48 pm

Haldo (Guest)

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Oh god her parents will kill her if she gets expelled

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March 16th, 2018, 4:53 pm

Second_Chances

NOOOOOOOO!

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RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
And this is why I hate Priests how much do people want to bet this ass is also a pedo.......
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I'm sorry that was out of line but I saw this coming poor Maria and now we have to wait 3 days before the next page I swear Jocelyn you are going to end up killing me with your darkness please please tell me Todd won't get away with this and now I even have a theory that everyone's 'favorite' big sister Kellen may have actually been the survivor of an anti-LBGT camp that allowed herself to be brainwashed. TT-TT Please let this story end with Happily Ever After for everyone good please I know it's Slice Of Life, but you are allowed to put in a bit of fantasy Jocelyn you really are. *goes away to cry in a corner waiting impatiently for next week*

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March 16th, 2018, 5:54 pm

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Yep. I had wondered about it at first but now i'm convinced.

Father Quenton is a hypocrite.

He went about how sloth is a sin, and yet the first instance of a gay person nearly assaulting the guy who beats her brother to the point of a broken rib, SHE is expelled. First offense too.

He went overkill and outright expelled her first chance he got.

He can prattle on about how she was assaulting him all he wants. but we all know what he just did.

he committed the sin of wrath. Which, correct me if i'm wrong here, should be immoral in his logic. No?

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March 16th, 2018, 6:20 pm

cathyfan (Guest)

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not only school but work. i worked in a place where both people were fired even if one person was defending themselves.

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March 16th, 2018, 6:58 pm

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(in jontron voice probably)
whAT

what the FUCK

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March 16th, 2018, 7:14 pm

Guest

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@TranshumanAr Technically, it wasn’t self defense, she was protecting someone else, which is a whole different case, I think.

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March 16th, 2018, 10:43 pm

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@Guest:

Protecting someone else ... it's called "defense of another" ... is the same as self-defense. Anything you are justified in doing to protect yourself is justified to do for another in similar danger.

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March 16th, 2018, 9:54 pm

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Victims aren’t allowed to fight back irl either, as per “zero tolerance”

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March 16th, 2018, 10:43 pm

Uhhh (Guest)

I'm sorry but...

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Okay, look, I really love this comic and I adore the story but... no, I can't like this twist. And it's not even for the twist itself, but it's for how it's being handled. I know comics have a tendency to bend the truth, but this is NOT how expulsion works. Suspension? Yeah. Expulsion? No.

Maria wouldn't just be cast off like this. She has the right to a hearing with a legal representative, and it would be done with their local school board. Then they'd have the witnesses - Chanel, and Todd. Maria can corroborate her story with people's accounts of Todd asking out every girl in the school and getting more and more irate through the day. Brother Arthur can also say that the head honcho dude was out of line.

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March 16th, 2018, 10:58 pm

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@Uhhh:

It's a private Catholic high school and almost certainly doesn't have a school board. It could have written disciplinary rules, however, that, if not followed by the school, could be a breach of the tuition contract between the school and Maria's parents ... if they are willing to sue. And there's likely at least one more level of authority above Father Quenton (a bishop or the head of Father Quenton's Order) who can be appealed to.

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March 17th, 2018, 12:01 am

Willowstream646 (Guest)

One more level of authority

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@CatPerson: Oh gosh I hope so...

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March 19th, 2018, 9:43 am

Proud Pagan (Guest)

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@CatPerson: You’re probably right.
Clerical organizations tend to get away with bending laws or even "legally" standing outside of laws.

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March 24th, 2018, 2:55 pm

RandomEgg

What Catperson said in a nutshell

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@Uhhh: Private schools can do pretty much anything

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March 17th, 2018, 3:22 am

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nononononoono onononoononononoononononononoononononoononononoon plz noooooo nononononononononooooo

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March 17th, 2018, 3:43 am

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This is the kind of content that makes people not want to continue reading.

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March 17th, 2018, 4:51 am

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Huh. Been a minute since I'd found a teacher in written format I found as deplorable as Dolores Umbridge (not counting Persona 5 only because it's a video game, or with Kamoshida they'd form the Profesor Fuck-Off Trilogy). And sadly, even if there are reasonable authority figures to appeal to, I doubt this asshole's going to end up getting the end he deserves, particularly with Maria's parents probably being on his side.

I appreciate the author's willingness to dig deep when it comes to serious matters (particularly in light of as much as the subject warranting it). I just hope things at least -end- on a happy note. But this bodes horribly for Maria. If they've -really- been willing to overlook Rudy's ribs just because he's homosexual (and that's just as fucking horrible a thing for a parent to do as Rain's sister attacking her), then I don't see Maria's parents willing to help her seek the justice she deserves in this situation.

Once again, I count my own blessings.

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March 17th, 2018, 10:38 am

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You are hereby expelled!

*loud ominous thunder of doom*

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March 17th, 2018, 8:06 pm

Lexxa (Guest)

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I really, really don't like him.

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March 17th, 2018, 10:57 pm

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*inhale* CAN PEOPLE ACTUALLY DO THIS? SHE NEVER SWUNG THE FUCKING PUNCH AND HARMED ANYONE. SHE WASN'T THE ONE WHO MADE PHYSICAL CONTACT. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
*ahem*
Todd never really got in deep trouble for his actions, right? and if he really did see what happened then he must have seen Chanel running from Todd. that shows todd did something. if only he actually tried looking into shit, todd would be long gone and everything would be better.

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March 18th, 2018, 4:28 am

Kalciphoz (Guest)

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@RandomEgg: Ehh I really recommend you read the Bible. You will probably get a whole new picture of Christianity if you do. It was in fact reading the Bible that caused me to stop being a Christian.

You might be particularly interested in Leviticus 20 which says to execute people who curse their parents, have gay sex, or a number of other relatively trivial things.

If you prefer the new testament (though OT still applies, see Matthew 5:18-19 and Luke 16:17) then that one has its fair share of cruelty as well. See Jeremiah 48:10, which condemns people who refrain from killing in God's name.

And unlike the Quran (surat al-kafirun) which I also don't believe in, the Bible has no verses advocating secularism or tolerance of other religions.

Anyway point being is that people need to make excuses for these verses if they want to be tolerant Christians. Christianity is at its core a very hateful religion, even compared to some other religions deemed hateful, and saying they're merely using it as an excuse to be hateful can also be damaging.

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March 18th, 2018, 7:26 am

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@Kalciphoz: please dont attack other peoples religions for being inherently hateful, that in of itself is an inherently hateful thing to do. the Bible is an extremely old book written in very different times, and there is no way such an old book could completely represent the religion in modern times, much less the people who practice it. i have personally struggled with being catholic because of reasons such as this many a time, and ultimately decided to believe in God, but by no means to i strictly follow the Bible or even try to tell other people to follow my religion. i merely ask that others try to be respectful of all religions, and to not judge a religion based on the actions of a few people claiming to represent the religion, even if they did something like write the Bible.

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March 18th, 2018, 4:13 pm

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@cat5: There's a difference between an individual being hateful towards a religion, and a religion being hateful towards individuals, and it was the religion I criticized rather than the individuals who follow it. On the other hand, RandomEgg was criticizing some of the individuals who follow it, rather than the religion itself.

That point aside, I do get it, having been on both sides of the issue. I very vividly remember the frustration I felt when people would criticize my religion (when I still believed it) but it is dangerous to let religions go challenged. I was raised by moderate parents, who, being moderates, had not read the bible and did not know what it contained. I think they believed it was all messages of love and kindness, so they told me it was all true and only encouraged me when I started reading it. When I read Corinthians, I started believing I was destined to hell for being gay, which was very damaging for the mental health of my 11-year-old self, and a lot of that anguish is still with me today. This would have been avoided if my parents had known that the bible was not filled with messages of tolerance and kindness, and that it is absolutely not suitable for young religious readers. It was gruesome.

As a final note, I want to say that I am speaking from a place of having been badly hurt by religion and speaking in interest of saving other people from going through what I went through. Keeping that in mind, I hope you can understand why it is painful to speak out about these things and mostly encounter responses that accuse me of being hateful.

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March 19th, 2018, 9:32 am

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@Kalciphoz: Thank you!

Christianity is guilty of several genocides and their book belongs on the index. Esp. the Roman Church is not more than a criminal organization.

Jesus of N. probably was one of the most interesting religious teachers, like e.g. the Buddha or Zoroaster or Ghandi or Giordano Bruno, but all Christianity (i.e. apotheosis of J. and the resulting power constructs) is based on lies and violence.

Believe in what you like or know and let others believe what they like or know. There’s not the one truth.

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March 24th, 2018, 2:46 pm

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@Kalciphoz: Sorry. Didn't mean to offend you. Or anyone else. I should shut up now.

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March 18th, 2018, 4:38 am

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Doesn't Brother Arthur have some kind of power in terms of reputational consequences he could inflict? Like if he were to go to the media and criticize the hell out of Father Quenton and the school perhaps? Might be about time to outright threaten Father Quenton with this.

Also since Brother Arthur gets to contact Maria's parents, he should be able to influence their perspective on the whole thing, maybe, like saying Maria made a sefless and "good Christian" stand to protect somebody who was being hurt by a notorious bully, and that he fervently disagrees with Quenton's decision. They might be receptive to that.

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March 19th, 2018, 9:46 am

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@Kalciphoz: I guess Brother Arthur will chicken out and obey. He’s trying to do good if nobody looks, but I don’t think he’ll risk his job and standing.

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March 18th, 2018, 6:06 am

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Oh shit son

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March 18th, 2018, 11:37 pm

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SUE

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March 19th, 2018, 1:39 am

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I am what I consider 'loosely Christian.'
What I mean by that is that I take what of Christianity is useful and relevant to me- mostly the central idea of 'Try to be kind to people'- that I was taught to. I don't think that being gay or transgendered or whatnot is a wrong thing to be or do. The Bible, in my opinion, is like a road map. Many people use it for directions, but they aren't all starting from the same place, or trying to get to the same end point in their lives. The Bible's rules attempt to place guidelines for maximizing humanity, specifically in regards to population, and with the best interests of Christians in mind. Having said that, it is several hundred years old. Some things have remained pretty constant; people still exist, in general, the sun still rises, etc. Others have changed. The world has grown up a bit, and learned a bit. I was always taught the following, which our congregation recited at the end of each Sunday sermon: "Go out into the world in peace. Hold on to that which is good. Return no one evil for evil. Support the weak. Help the suffering. HONOR ALL PEOPLE." I am Christian, in what I choose to define as Christian, because I believe in the kindness and respect that I was taught to have for others, and that I myself was shown. I do not believe that anyone, however, should follow a religion- even if it too calls itself Christian, and follows the same Bible- if they are not shown that kindness and respect. If a person is not Christian, then what that means to me is that Christianity has not been right to them, or that they are simply participants in another contextually valid culture. I am not overtly religious. I have my own faith, but I do not believe that anyone else should have to change themselves or suffer just because a hundreds-of-years-old book said that they shouldn't be
honest with themselves and others.

In other words, Father Quenton is BS and HE SHOULD GO FALL IN A HOLE

WITH BUGS IN IT.

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March 19th, 2018, 9:50 am

Proud Pagan (Guest)

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@>.<: Sorry, but "try to be kind to people" is human, not Christian.
Most of the "good things" that are declared to be Christian are mostly Humanist.
While church & inquisition tried to eliminate humanism, there probably wouldn’t be a church any more without the influence of humanism to make it somewhat bearable.

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March 24th, 2018, 2:57 pm

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@Proud Pagan: True. But Christians are supposed to be humane people

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March 19th, 2018, 8:48 am

guest (Guest)

lol

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this is honestly stupid as f*ck and isn't even how expulsion works in real life so :rolling_eyes: alright. this is dumb.

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March 19th, 2018, 10:36 am

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maybe thr parents will have a huge turn around or something and fight tokeep her in school. they might not accept her sexuality, but i can see them defending maria. they do genuinely love their kids, they just also want to change them.

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March 24th, 2018, 2:58 pm

RandomEgg

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@Guest: yeah. sure. 100% with you except for 99% of what you just said.

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April 6th, 2018, 12:57 am

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@Guest: No. No one that threatens to send their kids to torture camps (Oh, my bad, "gay conversion") loves their kids. Not genuinely.

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April 10th, 2018, 3:46 pm

megaman (Guest)

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man that principal priest guy is a total douche.

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June 23rd, 2018, 9:24 am

Krystalis (Guest)

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Just catching up. This entire story with Maria reminds me of my parents. I never came out to them as being either bi or bigender, but they pulled so much manipulative shit like this that it's haunted me for life. Like being accused of stealing drugs (no, I'm as sober as can be), like getting scolded for watching porn (it's not what Good Christian Ladies do, that was my mom's phrase-- I'll spare the details, but the punishment was torture), or having / hanging out with all guy friends, whom I just got along better with anyways, because that wasn't normal. Sleepover with guys? The shame!

Don't even get me started on my mom snooping through things and finding out I was interested in Paganism. That was a fight where I got accused of summon the ghosts haunting our house, how Norse paganism isn't a religion of love because its making us fight right now... it was a mess.

I'm glad I moved out, but I'm still in contact with them. I wouldn't say it was entirely because they were evil, I just get the feeling that they were good people who didn't know how to do the right thing, and my mom was really fearful for my eternal soul. That's the worst bit.

Sorry if I'm ranting, this just resonates with me so much. And I'm still in the closet to everyone but my SO.

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June 28th, 2018, 9:50 pm

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@TallMist: i would PLUVERIZE HIM

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April 21st, 2019, 11:57 pm

Gamenwatch

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Top 10 Worst principals

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May 28th, 2019, 10:52 pm

DarkVoid (Guest)

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AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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May 28th, 2019, 10:52 pm

DarkVoid (Guest)

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>:(

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