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posted October 12th, 2018, 9:38 am


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October 12th, 2018, 9:44 am

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One thing that can be said about Rudy: he's not lying. Still probably a troll, but not a liar. XD

And for those of you who may be forgetting what's going on and don't get this, Colette did come out as a trans boycome out as a trans boy to Rudy fairly recently.


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December 11th, 2018, 11:00 am

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October 12th, 2018, 9:55 am

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That is both clever and lovingly sassy. I love it

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October 12th, 2018, 10:09 am

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Gavin's expression in that last panel is excellent.
I don't know how i feel about this conversation just because it's a situation I hate to be in: stuck between outing someone and misgendering them...
not that I think it's going to end badly but it should really be Collette's choice of who he wants to know that he's male
on the other hand Rudy is still like 70% trolling and Gavin isn't taking him seriously.....

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October 12th, 2018, 10:44 am

TranshumanAr (Guest)

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Rudy has the lying style of Doc Scratch. He isn't lying, but he isn't revealing the full truth. That crazy gay bastard :D

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October 12th, 2018, 11:35 pm

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@TranshumanAr: if rudy had as much power as doc scratch, everyone would be mcfucking dead within two chapters.

that being said, rudy's probadefinitely a prospit rogue of heart.

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October 12th, 2018, 11:03 am

Ninjacookies

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so clever lol

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October 12th, 2018, 11:13 am

Pichu 250

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They are just a little too calm to be playing Fighter Frogs. My guess is that they're still on the loading screen.

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October 12th, 2018, 2:28 pm

Sigi (Guest)

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I totally ship Rudy and Cole.

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October 12th, 2018, 3:37 pm

Jarin (Guest)

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Somehow, Rudy manages to take "being respectful" and still be a little shit about it. I love it.

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October 13th, 2018, 7:48 pm

Charlie Skylar (Guest)

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Rudy is officially my spirit animal

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October 13th, 2018, 9:50 pm

RandomEgg

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(hmmm how to put this) Gavin you're forgetting that Rudy is GAAAAYYY (sorry if that was offensive in any way shape or form)

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October 14th, 2018, 5:26 pm

Kieran (Guest)

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I hope this means we'll see a bit more of Colette in the future?

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October 14th, 2018, 6:42 pm

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Be careful, Rudy. Don't out him unless you have his approval. Just don't. I hope he asked during the time spent with Colette that we didn't see.

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October 15th, 2018, 1:16 pm

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Rudy's rating of favorite people dropped 2 places... Gavin is my favorite now

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October 15th, 2018, 5:47 pm

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Rudy is literally me as a friend if somebody tells me not to tell other people about there gender identity ill respect that but at the same time I'm still going to respect how they identify.

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October 16th, 2018, 12:55 am

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On an unrelated note

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OMFG. I know this is sooo unrelated to Rain, but literally like 3 days ago i finally got my first HRT pills and i'm so happy about it. I still wish they would work faster, but i wanted to thank Jocelyn for writing and developing Rain all this time because it really helped me in the meantime.

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October 17th, 2018, 7:18 am

FitzyJM

I...wow...seriously Rudy?

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I'm really not sure what to think here...like, this strip is really well done/written (and also very real wrt how some people are with casually outing people)...but also...WOW Rudy...

I understand why Rudy said that, and I definitely get not wanting to misgender people or hear a friend be misgendered by other people...BUT...the way that Rudy phrased this is VERY reckless...like, he might be thinking that he's too clever and that Gavin wouldn't figure it out from just that, and even if he did, Gavin's cool, he's managed to be respectful of all the other queer people in their social circle...but, even if all of that were 100% true and able to be guaranteed (which, some of it isn't), there's still a LOT of issues here...

1. That information is NOT his to share...Colette came out to him, and it seemed pretty clear that he wasn't ready to be out any more than that at the moment...he has no right to share that information with anyone

2. Yes, Gavin is/has been respectful for the most part, but, like is mentioned above (in 1), that doesn't make it okay for Rudy to potentially out Colette...it's not okay to out anyone when they don't want to be outed...or at all

3. There's also an implication of a potential thought process(es)/opinion(s) that makes Rudy kind of seem like a bad friend...here's my explanation:
To me, it seems like he either DOESN'T CARE if he outs Colette against his wishes (even if it's just to Gavin, Colette made it clear that he's not comfortable being out until, "...I move out for college..."), OR, he thinks that there's NO WAY that Gavin would actually pick up on the very obvious shit that he's saying (like "correcting" what Gavin was saying regarding Rudy chatting/hanging out with "some senior girl"), and while Gavin might not be the smartest person in their group of friends, he's not stupid, and I wouldn't be surprised if he DOES figure it out because of what Rudy said here (and/or other things he might say after this)...
Or, even worse, it seems likely that BOTH of these might be true; that he's actively insulting/belittling/looking down on Gavin's intelligence/ability to understand some PRETTY OBVIOUS hints, AND that he doesn't care if he outs Colette (after being explicitly told that he doesn't feel comfortable coming out for AT LEAST a few months after he's moved away)

Honestly, the point that really drives this all home is one sentence from the third panel.

"I'm correcting you."

Gavin explicitly brings up Colette as "That senior girl," and explicitly mentions how he's "seen you chatting with her in the halls." Like, there's literally NO ONE ELSE that Gavin could possibly be talking about, as he's actively asking who that person (Colette) is, and in response to this, Rudy immediately states that he hasn't been chatting with any girls...like, there's not really much left to interpret there...and then when Gavin asks if Rudy is trolling him (effectively giving Rudy an excuse/escape out of the situation he just created), Rudy DOUBLES DOWN, and explicitly states that he was "correcting" Gavin...and considering that Gavin is very explicitly asking him "who is this specific girl," Rudy's response is effectively saying "this person you think is a girl is not a girl," which, that feels/sounds like being outed to me...

And again, when Gavin gave Rudy an opportunity to stop for a second, realize what he said, and fix the mistake/stop himself from outing Colette, Rudy IMMEDIATELY doubles down and just flat out says, "...no. I'm correcting you," which actively states that this person that was presenting femme/as a girl is NOT a girl...

Like I said earlier, Gavin's not stupid, honestly, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he figures it out, and soon, ESPECIALLY considering the faces that both of them are making in that last panel...like, Gavin is noticeably trying to decipher what Rudy said and what it means, and meanwhile, Rudy looks smug and proud of himself...

Like...I'm gonna be honest, this is a pretty awful thing for Rudy to do, to both of them (though, the slight towards Gavin is far less significant)...but at the same time, if that's the case, and if that topic is explored, it's a very strong and compelling character flaw that could easily drive an arc or something where there's conflict between Rudy and some of the others because of something similar (if not this exact issue)...and so far, Jocelyn has done an awesome job wrt making this potential character flaw/issue pretty realistic...like, speaking from experience, my mom has just casually outed me to multiple people who she thought either wouldn't have any problem with my being trans, or that it wouldn't matter because I'd probably never interact with them again...and in multiple of those cases, her predictions have been wrong (luckily for me, that's mostly in the case of the latter, but still, it's absolutely a risk)...so, I guess I kind of relate to Colette in this situation (which might be why I'm making a whole thing out it...but hey, it's a thing that I was able to connect with, and much like with a comment I posted on a different Rain strip a couple months ago, I wanted to thank Jocelyn for once again doing a difficult topic that many of us go through, and I think is as much a part of the "queer experience" as being closeted is...

So...um...yeah, thank you Jocelyn, for once again doing a super awesome job at really representing this thing that many of us are familiar with in some way, it was done really well here and is a strong set up for it to potentially become a thing and also an exploration of one of our major characters flaws (which are also good to explore).

Okay, I'm done rambling now...sorry, sometimes I get really long-winded, and uh...wow...that was really long...whoopsie...

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